• big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    welcome to freedom

    i don't think that a hivemind focused on "muh jews" and "muh removed" whose best praxis is shooting schools or places filled of defenseless people can be defined as freedom...

  • bigbologna [she/her]
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    9 months ago

    There is a full 100% chance that every person he's debated with is just another interchangeable identical 4channer doing a bad caricature of what they think a left-wing person is to start an argument and piss people off

  • angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    channers are so self-important holy shit

    i'm not ignorant to that culture, i was on the internet in mid 2000s as well

    but imagine believing your terminally online culture of posting slurs and cuckold porn while self-loathing is going to undermine actual political theory

    the best converts they get are other terminally online cuckold enjoyers who hate themselves

    • comrade-bear@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      Look I think they have some "evidence" to back that, comrade kirbywiththewhip sometime ago posted a video that mocked how teenager change ideology all the time and indeed some do but only cause they engage with said ideologies on a surface level, so maybe they've convinced a bunch of teens that claimed to be communists but weren't very serious about it, and then the folk that convinced them think that cause that attracted a mostly lost teenager(or maybe even a bunch of them) they are the embodiment of reason

  • comradeRichard@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Back in highschool and immediately after, I was on 4chan. Def Nazis everywhere then too... But I didn't turn out like that, I also don't think I ever looked at /pol/ 🤷 I was only there for jokes and shock content, being shortly after oggrish and whatnot.

    But that was all when I was so angsty and misanthropic, and for some reason felt like I hated myself. I got older, and eventually discovered I didn't hate myself that much... And I didn't know how I could care about myself without truly internalizing the horrors of the world that I was aware of and caring about the rest of the world, the vast majority of the horrors being from class struggles or collateral damage of them.

    So yeah, my self growth had a lot to do with my radicalization. As did my heart.

    • I was on earlier 4chan, but even outside of /pol/ and /b/ after GamerGate, the whole site got corrupted. It went from a misanthropic but fun website to just angry and pathetic.

      Also their obsession with jewish people is totally unhinged, plenty of people use them as scapegoats, but /pol/ dials that shit up to 11.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Also their obsession with jewish people is totally unhinged, plenty of people use them as scapegoats, but /pol/ dials that shit up to 11.

        same with trans people

    • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      Dont blame yourself comrade, most of us where on 4chan; its because it used to be what reddit also used to be; A hub of the internet for counter-culture.

      Now its just a place for shithead fash to yell at each other, and it was pretty much always this, but being a dumbass teenager can excuse a lot of things.

      But it did have a cultural moment of being more relevant a decade ago, not so much anymore.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    The "debate" in question is just twenty nazis saying "racism is good" while using 5 racial slurs per sentence.

  • redsteel@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    This 4chan teenager got us all figured out, we're doomed. He learned well from his middle-aged neo-nazi groomers on /pol/, his brave screed is worthy of a crosspost between /r/IAmVeryBadAss and /r/cringe!

  • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Class has a much stronger influence on politics than arguments, and it is pretty typical for a petty bourgeois to go through a (brief) ‘left‐wing’ phase, principally due to the petty bourgeoisie’s struggle against its haut‐bourgeois competitors. Nothing special here.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    When the internet has broken your brain so bad that you start believing you're an anime villain

  • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Lmao, almost certainly a good degree of projection here. Dude must have gone spewing insane nonsense somewhere and got challenged on his logic, and deep down realized he's full of it, but rather than introspect he assumes its normal for people who disagree to slowly realize they're amicable to the opposing side, and that him and his "group" should leverage this supposed innate feature. Clown.

  • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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    9 months ago

    Fascists: speech-r frothingfash

    Leftists: dubois-depressed "I will change there minds by being as open as I can about my ideology, appealing to their material conditions and chipping away at an ocean of misinformation whenever I can. If I fail at any one of these because I haven't Internalized page 32 of Rosa Luxemburg's theisis of Inflation I am a weirdo raving about the sky falling and my words will fade away like snow in the rain."

    Liberals: maybe-later-honey "Why are these extremists so similar!?"

  • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    There is no freedom without responsibility. There is a reason for the phrase in many languages of doing onto others as one would want done to themselves. If you give out hate, you'll receive hate. Give respect and you shall receive respect. One can give too much of themselves of course, and that is why one should build relationships of reciprocity. Reactionaries have the ideology of a child that never learned the value of compassion.