Give one good reason that doesn't hinge on racism or conspiracies about Chinese surveillance. And make sure it is a reason to ban TikTok specifically, and can't be applied to all social media. There's no reason to single out tiktok beyond racism and anti-chinese fearmongering.
imo tiktok shouldn't be banned but tbf short form content is brain-melting, and I'm speaking from experience. my attention span is still recovering from when i used tiktok/yt shorts.
I try not to use it after I had a night where I just lay in bed watching shorts instead of sleeping, it's really easy to just lose all your time to it. I'm not sure if my attention span is damaged from this stuff or something else, but I struggle massively with focusing on my work in the last 6 months or so in a way I never did before.
You're right, there's a very good reason to ban all social media just because of surveillance, Chinese or American. And to shut up those influencers who are nothing more than glorified advertisers that people follow for some reason.
Why is surveillance something to be worried about? And is all surveillance created equal? These aren't "gotchas" or whatever, these are honest questions about your thought process here. Why is surveillance bad? What things can it be used to do? And surely another country's surveillance is overall less impactful (and less of a threat) than your own. (I'm far more worried about my own government spying on me than I am with a foreign country like China, simply because they have less ability to actually do anything to me, being an ocean away).
Yes, I agree, but why is being spied on bad? What is the problem with it? I have my own reasons for disliking it, but I don't know what you personally dislike about it. What is your response to the bullshit "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about?"
What more of a reason do you need to have. It's a human right, I don't want to be treated like a criminal and have my data harvested for profit. I don't leave my door and windows open for anyone to look at me, and I also don't want anyone spying at me online. Especially some giant, lying, thieving, greedy, no good corporations.
What is your response to the bullshit "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about?"
If someone spew that idiotic nonsense at me I would demand they let me in their house so I can look what they're doing during the day since they're the paragon of security.
Good answer lol. If you're interested, we could talk further about human rights in general, and which ones are the most important (Security obviously being right up there with food and shelter).
I don't think I'd be a good talker, but if you want my opinion on things, by all means. You won't find many radical, world shattering thoughts though :P
Fair enough, I hope you'll stick around and lurk around here a bit. I don't think you'd totally disagree with most of us here on these, even if people were a bit aggressive towards your first comment. Just be willing to listen and learn, and ask questions when you're genuinely interested in hearing the answers and you'll probably have a good time.
Yeah, don't feel like you have to change you mind on things, but just be willing to understand why someone might disagree with you on something, rather than just dismissing them outright. We also do dumb memes and things if you don't want intellectual discussion all the time.
Give one good reason that doesn't hinge on racism or conspiracies about Chinese surveillance. And make sure it is a reason to ban TikTok specifically, and can't be applied to all social media. There's no reason to single out tiktok beyond racism and anti-chinese fearmongering.
American tech oligarchs wants to buy TikTok at fire sale prices. That's as good an explanation as you could ever get for "banning" TikTok.
That's the only reason this is happening. "Free market for me, not for thee" for American corporations.
imo tiktok shouldn't be banned but tbf short form content is brain-melting, and I'm speaking from experience. my attention span is still recovering from when i used tiktok/yt shorts.
I try not to use it after I had a night where I just lay in bed watching shorts instead of sleeping, it's really easy to just lose all your time to it. I'm not sure if my attention span is damaged from this stuff or something else, but I struggle massively with focusing on my work in the last 6 months or so in a way I never did before.
yeah i really started having issues with that as well
yeah i really started having issues with that as well
You're right, there's a very good reason to ban all social media just because of surveillance, Chinese or American. And to shut up those influencers who are nothing more than glorified advertisers that people follow for some reason.
Why is surveillance something to be worried about? And is all surveillance created equal? These aren't "gotchas" or whatever, these are honest questions about your thought process here. Why is surveillance bad? What things can it be used to do? And surely another country's surveillance is overall less impactful (and less of a threat) than your own. (I'm far more worried about my own government spying on me than I am with a foreign country like China, simply because they have less ability to actually do anything to me, being an ocean away).
Because I don't want to be spied on. What's wrong with having some privacy?
Yes, I agree, but why is being spied on bad? What is the problem with it? I have my own reasons for disliking it, but I don't know what you personally dislike about it. What is your response to the bullshit "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about?"
What more of a reason do you need to have. It's a human right, I don't want to be treated like a criminal and have my data harvested for profit. I don't leave my door and windows open for anyone to look at me, and I also don't want anyone spying at me online. Especially some giant, lying, thieving, greedy, no good corporations.
If someone spew that idiotic nonsense at me I would demand they let me in their house so I can look what they're doing during the day since they're the paragon of security.
Good answer lol. If you're interested, we could talk further about human rights in general, and which ones are the most important (Security obviously being right up there with food and shelter).
I don't think I'd be a good talker, but if you want my opinion on things, by all means. You won't find many radical, world shattering thoughts though :P
Fair enough, I hope you'll stick around and lurk around here a bit. I don't think you'd totally disagree with most of us here on these, even if people were a bit aggressive towards your first comment. Just be willing to listen and learn, and ask questions when you're genuinely interested in hearing the answers and you'll probably have a good time.
I can't blame them for my comment, it was a bad one I admit and their responses were much better. I usually try to put more thought into my comments.
I think we can find common ground, you have some things worth thinking about.
Yeah, don't feel like you have to change you mind on things, but just be willing to understand why someone might disagree with you on something, rather than just dismissing them outright. We also do dumb memes and things if you don't want intellectual discussion all the time.