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    • Will2Live [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The piano roll is a much better intuitive composition tool, but trash for reading music.

      But at the same time for many styles if music you can get by without the staff. I play jazz and cannot read sheet music to save my life

      Also knowing note names and the number of sharps and flats in a key is overhyped. I get by with the Roman numeral system just fine

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, I wouldn't want to have to sightsing off a piano roll.

        Interestingly, I find the roman numerals incomprehensible, but sharps and flats and intervals and scale notations come easily.

        • Will2Live [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That's funny :)

          Roman numeral system is so natural for me, that with most pop, jazz, or rock songs, In my head as i'm listening i can go "that's the V, that's vi, that's I" etc. etc.

          Did you take music classes? maybe that's why you're more acquainted with the sharps/flats etc.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            No, I just have a voice that suits classical solo-work, and picked up chord structures from singing endless interval exercises, so I just naturally think of chords as intervals stacked on top of one another.

            I am super crap at Solfege, can't really do it in real time, at least with the rapid florid shit I usually sing. I just pick a reference note and the tonic and hope for the best. Works out ok for everything that isn't too dissonant

              • Mardoniush [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                There is a lot of benefit of Solfege (Indian music has its own traditional version.) Vocalists mostly learn it to sightsing, and trying to sing without it can have real issues if you're singing dissonant or atonal stuff on first sight.

                Even something like some of Rameau's work (Castor and Pollux, the all Accompagnato show, all Accompagnato, all the time. You want an Aria? You get ONE.) will trip you up if you don't realise that chord isn't resolving quickly enough, or that the notes between the chords are deliberately off key.

                  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah. Absolutely. I'd like to note that the current notation system was never designed to be a comprehensive guide to a performance any more than Plainchant Notation, until mid 19th century the finishing work was given largely to the performers. It's mostly Rossini's fault, him getting fed up with shitty soloists doing runs all over his pieces.

                    If you look at soloist copies and autographs, there are shitloads of additional symbols in 17th-18th century music. There were between 9 and 22 different types of trills (upwards, downwards, same note trill, pressed vibrato, glottal stopped, played on the palate, bounced off the diaphragm.)

                    Performers notated musical colouring, turns, the type of portamento, the exact shape of mezza di Voce, when to add vibrato, how to attack the note beyond Legato-Staccato, Really complex phrasing. All things that are lost in modern vocal music.

                    The notation varied from region to region and from teacher to teacher but most people could look at a score and follow that performance notation.