But people said the same thing about photography and painting 150 years ago!

This is entirely different from that. Landscaping had aesthetic value after photography because people were able to embellish and stylize landscapes in ways they didn't actually exist in real life. There is no way to "escape" from AI into more stylization. All it takes is enough of those new stylized images and it'll be able to replicate it. This is different from photography because photography can't learn.

But people want human expression!

Yes, they do, but they'll probably only realize this after a couple decades of art [almost] completely uninspired by the human condition and depression and anxiety skyrockets. In the short term, people will only care that they can type into a field and get what they want without any significant investment. Good luck finding an art job that isn't just making prompts in that economy (And if you say that making prompts is the same as being a painter or illustrator, yes it is art but no it isn't the same and fuck you).

I rest my case, art automation is cool but under capitalism it'll only be used to devalue artists further, and drive them deeper into poverty. It would be a great tool in a society capable of regulating itself but WE DON'T LIVE IN THAT SOCIETY AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT.

STOP LISTENING TO :melon-musk: :debatebro-l: AND SUPPORT YOUR ARTIST COMRADES NOW

Now that I got your attention with my inflammatory statements, please commission your artist comrades and support them in their struggle to exist in what is already a very punishing world to live in. I promise to give any of you that do big hugs, I love you all, and bye.

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Visit any art gallery. Ask artists what they think of people who work for a living.

    "go to a place that caters to and promotes mostly the wealthy and the children of the wealthy and ask them about their opinion of less wealthy people" is not the own you may initially think it is

    • Presents [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      OK, so now we've admitted that part of the artistic community has a problem with punching down. Making progress.

      Where may we find this mythical hive of sympathy and understanding for the problems of the working class? It must be a secret society. One that does such a good job of staying hidden that evidence for its existence is undetectable.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Are you a materialist or a liberal? It doesn't matter what the wealthy "arty" stereotypes are like or say about you and me. They don't represent all artists, and even if they did they arrived at their position and beliefs due to this thing called material conditions.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The only artist I know personally works in auto body because he's not a wealthy elite. Fuck him because there are not sympathetic artists.

            Anyway :LIB: