Is it actually kind of good rich kids waste their life with music instead of doing anything material that adversely affects people? Yes, these people ruin any music scene they infiltrate but it feels like damage control compared to what they could have done otherwise.

I was poor and starting my freshman year at music conservatory at 22 years old, wasnt even a leftist, but even then I knew that music was kind of worthless. Music as a metaphysical healing force is neoliberal thought, music is the thread that knits communities but is essentially useless in a place without community.

But this kind of thought only serves to make libs feel good about themselves for choosing something entirely selfish rather than something useful like say be a doctor or teacher.

  • MikeTysonMaoTattoo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've never made anything I didn't like but I never felt like I made something that was good enough to serve a purpose beyond my own.

    I think it is selfish, you're at a jazz gig with some of the baddest jazz musicians and more than 3/4 of the room is on their phone the entire time or talking loudly to compete with the instruments. I've seen it so many times, something has to be wrong here.

    In my mind, the pursuit of music to a fanatical obsession is analogous to people buying luxury second homes when some people are on the streets.

    • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      you’re at a jazz gig with some of the baddest jazz musicians and more than 3/4 of the room is on their phone the entire time or talking loudly to compete with the instruments.

      I go to jazz performances all the time (and also worked / played at a jazz club for several years) and I've never seen phone use at that level at all. A lot of clubs even specifically prohibit the use of phones entirely. So yeah, maybe you've caught some off nights, or just have a particularly disrespectful crowds in your area, but I definitely wouldn't consider this to be the norm. I have also been dragged out to some indie pop style shows though and yeah the phone use is off the charts. In my experience at least death metal and jazz tend to have the best crowds.