Is it actually kind of good rich kids waste their life with music instead of doing anything material that adversely affects people? Yes, these people ruin any music scene they infiltrate but it feels like damage control compared to what they could have done otherwise.

I was poor and starting my freshman year at music conservatory at 22 years old, wasnt even a leftist, but even then I knew that music was kind of worthless. Music as a metaphysical healing force is neoliberal thought, music is the thread that knits communities but is essentially useless in a place without community.

But this kind of thought only serves to make libs feel good about themselves for choosing something entirely selfish rather than something useful like say be a doctor or teacher.

  • MikeTysonMaoTattoo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Music in this context where its mostly rich people doing it is worthless to me is my point. Also id argue that being able to hum a tune or feel something to music isnt good enough and not being able to articulate beyond that is actually a bad thing as you should be able to do more, that is if it is such a integral human experience. Please see white people not being able to dance.

      • SadStruggle92 [none/use name]
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        He kinda has a point. We don't actually have anything like a living folk-music tradition anymore because the entire edifice has been completely industrialized by recording companies & finance capital; and consequently the only voices that get heard are minimally petite-bourgeois or bourgeois-aspirants.

        You couldn't possibly make a song like "John Brown's Body", or "Solidarity Forever" these days & expect it to get any kind of traction. And yeah, some of that is just a matter of "technology marches on", but you'd have to be willfully ignorant to believe that the economic structure of the music industry doesn't have any impact on what gets produced & why.

        • GuerrillaMindset [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          why is that a music/art problem and not a capitalism problem? if the point is 'capitalism rewards shit art and makes real art inaccessible' then why all the tirade about how art can't be healing and is only useful to communities and moralizing about how you're not supposed to listen to music in a stadium, must be have this IQ to hear music, white people can't dance etc.? the argument that makes the most sense is buried under a bunch of weird criticisms that don't land and then the crux of the argument is misdirected at music as a thing instead of capitalism as a system. capitalist commodification is the problem we're talking about, not making jabs at how people engage or interact with music and deeming it as useful or unuseful or liberal or 'good.' it's weird.