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Expertise is when you undercount a country's industrial capactiy but 1,200%
Also, I was recently told we couldn't build out automation on a massive scale because each year of robot labor required thousands of years of human labor. Well how now brown cown!?!?!?!?!
Holy fuck Americans really will bash their heads against Chinese steel.
Experts went to China to count robots
You'll never guess what they found
how many robots does China have
expert: uhhhh shit idk… like… at least … idk 30?
What are you talking about? That's already old news, they've been saying it for more than 5 years now.
https://www.bgp4.com/2019/05/10/what-is-chinas-skynet-yes-it-is-what-you-think-it-is/
Lib article but anyways
https://aithority.com/news/top-10-countries-and-cities-by-number-of-cctv-cameras/#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20has%2015.28,2.46%20and%20South%20Korea%201.99.
Doesn't seem unusual, considering United States has a similar rate of surveillance...
afaik London is far and away the most intensely surveilled place in the world, which I find endlessly funny because it's both exactly what Orwell predicted and excellent evidence tht he was a big dummy.
excellent evidence tht he was a big dummy.
Tbf, a rat kens a rat, considering his links with the Information Research Department of the U.K, his snitching list, and his links to the BBC.
Really, any amateur gumshoes worth their weight must know he's fed.... he micht be a fox, weasel and snake, but he's not a dummy....
This is a 4D chess move by the Chinese communists to elevate woke feminists in the west into becoming Sarah Conner and undermining men
They are wrong, China isn't waiting to catch up to the leading edge, they ARE the leading-edge. The things that Chinese student robotics teams are able to come to international competition with is genuinely crazy, with the amount of programming that is required. If there is any gap it is the technology waiting to catch up to their expertise.
Not only that but China is really the only country that does genuine quality control outside of their automotive industry because they are willing to completely redesign their factories and processes around it.
It is crazy to me that people still genuinely underestimate China.
People genuinely believe that the US is perpetually 30 years ahead of its competitors as a rule of thumb. They do not even have the capacity to understand how amazing Chinas rise is.
Genuine question - what happens to the workers who get replaced? I know in Western countries, we'd all be left jobless (leading to a crisis in capitalism). But even with this high a rate of replacement, it doesn't seem like China's going through an unemployment crisis or that the masses are resentful of the jobs they are losing. So something must be different. For a while I can imagine the workers fired from one plant can go to another, but given this has been a priority for the govt. for close to a decade at this point, there has to be something more substantial being done for the people. Are they in mass moving into the service sector? That cannot be sustainable solution. And I can't imagine agriculture itself isn't being automated either, if some are moving back to the villages. Others might move to higher-tier manufacturing that isn't replaced as of yet...but none of these feel like the solution. I'm just reminded of the fact that machines cannot produce value, only human labor can, and am just left wondering what's happening.
My understanding is that currently the focus is on retraining the workers for higher skilled jobs, and China does have a declining population, so a lot of the automation will be replacing workers who are retiring. So, I don't think China is quite at the point where automation actually taking jobs away that people want.
However, once China reaches the point where a lot of the need for labor is eliminated, we'll get to see if China really is willing to embrace communism. If the answer is yes, then work could become an entirely voluntary endeavour. Everyone could be provided with universal basic services such as housing, food, healthcare, and education, and then people can just choose to spend their time any way they like.
and then people can just choose to spend their time any way they like.
24/7 rave
China has managed not to destroy pre capitalist forms of community as completely as earlier capitalist construction did in the West. So this might be fairly easy, as people have clear social roles and responsibilities not tied to production
Indeed, the degree of atomization of society in the west is frankly incredible. I saw studies showing how most people barely even have friends anymore, let alone feeling as a part of any sort of a community.
straight to the c*m milking factories, they tried to warn us but the world didn't listen
I think their industry is growing so fast the robots probably haven't displaced much if any labor.
Maybe systematic retraining and programs to help people find new work dwarfing those in the west? I'd be interested to know the specific answer to your question though.
China: Let's develop robotics at top speed.
US: Let's develop AI-robotics at top speed so in theory we could increase the speed of an assembly line 10 fold. The AI will never work but who cares? We can grift on it for years.
