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A Houthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to executed, on charges relating to homosexuality, a judicial court confirmed this week.
The Houthi movement, officially known as Ansar Allah, is a Shia Islamist political and military organisation that emerged in Yemen during the 1990s. Houthi militants control vast swathes of the country, and the group’s recent attacks on Red Sea shipping has prompted retaliation from both the US and the UK.
The death sentences were handed down in Ibb, an area controlled by the Houthis rebels. According to reports in AFP, quoting an anonymous source, three others were jailed on similar charges and another 35 people were detained in the province, also for alleged homosexuality-related offences.
The court findings are open to appeal and it is not clear when any of the public executions are due to be carried out, but, according to a report by the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor in 2022, the Houthis have sentenced 350 people to death – 11 of who have been executed – since they seized Yemen’s capital city of Sanaa in 2014.
“The Houthis are ramping up their abuses at home while the world is busy watching their attacks in the Red Sea,” Niku Jafarnia, a researcher for Human Rights Watch, told AFP.
“If they really cared about the human rights they purport to be standing up for in Palestine, they wouldn’t be flogging and stoning Yemenis to death.”
According to Amnesty International, the rebels continue to target LGBTQ+ people with arbitrary arrest and torture, including rape and other forms of sexual violence. In 2022, the Southern Transitional Council, a secessionist organisation in South Yemen, and the Houthis arrested at least five people on the basis of either their refusal to conform to “masculine” and “feminine” presentation or their LGBTQ+ activism.
On one occasion, a queer man was pulled off the street and accused of being a “sexual deviant.” He was detained in a military vehicle and only released on the condition that he agreed to help the Houthis capture people who did not conform to gender norms. However, after he was released he refused, and was told by security forces that he was wanted for arrest once again.
In addition, the Houthis’ “mahram agreement” continues to ban women from travelling without a male guardian or written evidence of their consent. Meanwhile, increased restrictions on travel have affected women’s ability to work, resulting in many being unable to access healthcare, with Yemeni female humanitarian workers unable to reach them.
Is there any way to know if this and the other charges being made in here are actually real? Just thinking on how many articles about North Korea are, straight up, completely fabricated. Not saying this is or isn’t, but there’s that obvious possibility as an article coming from the West about one of the West’s key adversaries right now
I mean, they are quoting an anonymous source for some of the reporting, as well as a video of a death sentence being read in court that "could not be verified."
However, they also quote an organization called Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor who has done good reporting on Israeli human rights violations against Palestinians. Here is their wikipedia page
A 2022 report by the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor said the Houthis have sentenced 350 people to death since seizing the capital in 2014, and have executed 11 of them.
Assuming the above is true: Don't get me wrong, 11 executed people for gay sex is wrong, but it's not wrong enough to erase the good they're doing by blockading against a genocide. The 350 people sentenced to death
are alsomay possibly be being repressed unjustly. But again. This is over the course of 10 years... Israel killed AT MINIMUM 30k innocents in just 5 months. And I'm certain that 350 of those people are LGBTQIA+This is a textbook case of a group deserving critical support.
The Euro-Med thing from your quote just says they have sentenced 350 people to death, but doesn't say for what. It isn't clear if it's for being LGBTQ or for being Saudi collaborators or something like that.
The rest of the article is just western ghouls.
I would caution against taking that one sentence summary of a full report as a knock against euro-med human rights monitor. It's the author of the op article that is trying to imply the 350 people are all LGBTQIA.
I think this may be the report: https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5480/Death-penalty-for-16-Yemenis-reflects-high-cost-of-Houthi-impunity
De facto Houthi authorities have near-total control over judicial institutions in the areas they run, which has a direct impact on the independence of a judiciary and the outcome of cases concerning the group’s opponents. Houthi control exploits the judiciary system, turning it into a tool that the group uses to settle scores with dissidents and political opponents.
Since taking over Sana’a in 2014, the Houthi group has issued approximately 350 death sentences against politicians, opposition activists, journalists, and military personnel, at least 11 of which have been carried out. Authorities have ignored the application of human rights standards in almost every case, denying defendants the right to fair and impartial proceedings and, instead, convicting them on charges both arbitrary and politically motivated.
Not saying that I know anything about anything on this matter but the western propaganda machine is really good at twisting narratives, especially when the infosphere of the particular country is weak or nonexistent.
So I'd count Russia as having a fairly strong infosphere, China as having a infosphere that has a good buffer but which lacks much ability to project power (although it has been improving its capacity in this respect), and Iran or Palestine or especially Ansarallah to have a virtually nonexistent infosphere, making them particularly vulnerable to information warfare from the west.
What this means in terms of information warfare is that it's extremely easy to spin a narrative RFA-style; are a significant number of the people from an ethnic or religious minority? Then it's clear indications of Ansarallah's emerging genocidal intent.
Are the people being executed for attempting a coup from a political resistance group? Then it's a clear case of Ansarallah suppressing any opposing political party.
Are the people being condemned to death for CSA that happened to be same-sex? Then it's a clear case of executing people based on sexuality.You get the picture.
[CW: mild discussions of sexual abuse in the abstract ahead]
These pernicious disinfo outlets take a single term from a domestic language that hardly anyone in the west speaks, either through official documents or through domestic media reports, and they turn a word like "sodomy" or "impermissible sexual conduct" into "homosexuality" when in the context of the actual charges it's just the conventional term or the official legislative or judicial language used to refer to a crime like CSA or the sexual abuse of animals or something.
Fairly recently there was an example of this where a Chinese guy who was an international student in the US, I think, who got put up on charges "for having a twitter account" or "posting things critical of the CCP" when, after looking at the Chinese court documents he wasn't just "picking quarrels and provoking trouble" but he had multiple social media accounts where he was actively promoting disinfo on telegram groups by trying to rabble-rouse and he was impersonating people including one Chinese citizen whose likeness and identity he had appropriated and he was using that account to attack people and cause drama.
The sort of stuff that would probably slide in most western countries but also it was definitely veering into a legal grey area and the Chinese government doesn't fuck around with concerns over freedom of speech for people who steal identities and misrepresent their opinions because you cannot maintain a content population of 1.4 billion people if anyone can just start smearing another person's reputation by defamatory actions like this, so the government is much more likely to crack down in order to get people to knock that shit off.
Not saying that whatever is going on with Ansarallah is true or false but this wouldn't be the first time some international agency like
AmnesiaAmnesty International will make some spurious claims, release some report, and then it goes into the western media cycle and becomes part of the narrative before it eventually gets exposed as a fabrication or heavily skewed interpretation or it gets quietly retracted after the damage is already done.The timing is super convenient tho, you gotta admit that.
During dah cold wah...
the anti-communist ideological framework (or in this context, colonial)
The rest of the article is just western ghouls.
Yeah, I didn't say that explicitly, but that's what I was driving at in my first paragraph. Anonymous sources and unverifiable videos are hallmarks of Western Intelligence disinformation.
If they really cared about the human rights they purport to be standing up for in Palestine, they wouldn’t be flogging and stoning Yemenis to death.
30k dead Palestinians 11 dead Yemenis? tough contest
(But yeah critical support)
Pretty sure its BS because the link saying "according to AFP" doesn't go to AFP it goes to some
news site. I can't find the AFP article at all.On one hand, pretty sure they're an explicitly reactionary, conservative, religious group (just off the top of my dome, I do not know this as fact.). - so it could very well be. On the other hand, don't such groups routinely announce these things themselves because they believe they're doing the right thing and celebrating it?
This smacks of disinformation.
in the 1980s Yemen was briefly split into two States, one of which was ML. I didn't read too much into it so I dont know how good they were, but similar to the GDR when the States unified the vibe I got was the reactionary elements won out.
I mean this very lightly (and I only include that because i'm conscious of always coming across as mean), I encourage you and all of us to avoid making sweeping speculative statements. Obviously I don't know you, but often we're playing into riling each other up, and our own unconscious bias.
I know this is largely a shitposting site, and it's not something I see here so much (other lemmy instances though, fuck), but we're online right now, if we're unsure of something, we can take the time to investigate it.
often these spaces lend themselves to a kind of race to respond, I dunno, i'm having a weird day and i'm rambling. sorry lol. You're comment did not necessitate this.
death to speculators, or something.
Never understood homophobia from a practical point of view. The west has shown that you can be a minority and still champion reactionary views and be shill for the state. But nooo, you MUST go on a crusade against the handful of gay people because they can’t naturally have kids or some dumb shit
Yeah...a "sources not authorized to talk to the press" article with the meat of the article being how the group is spoiling treat ships for the empire.
Certainly thia will get thsoe misfit leftists on the side of the Empire and ignore their gripes about a genocide.
Until I see videos of lgbt people getting beheaded like isis I assume that the middle east is at worst just heavily closeted and not worse than how gay people were treated through the civil rights movement to the aids era in amerikkka.
I wouldn’t go that far lol. Between societies where it’s generally acceptable for gay people to exist and societies where gay people are demonized legislatively, I imagine the former is materially better. But in the US, the conservatives are working over time to make American society as close to a caliphate and the democrats sit by idly and think they can convince them with debate and facts.
