But what does sex appeal do for the game, if it's just going to give people a reason to not focus on the overall message?
Because hot people doing things is fun sometimes. Not everything needs to be deep. And please don’t say “everything is political.” Yes, it is. We can link Stardew Valley to neo-imperialism in Nigeria and it would be completely valid. But sometimes you just wanna see girls with big butts eviscerating an ancient martial arts demi god even if the moral of the story is “wow family and friends are very important to society”
Like if I'm writing a realistic fiction novel about anti-black racism, what actually is the purpose of using the n-word so liberally or even at all? It's just going to attract chuds who will completely miss the point of the book and put-off the audience I want.
Because real life anti black racism involves calling people the n word? Lmao if someone tries to depict “realistic” racism and the racist is saying every word except the n word, I would say the author is an annoying dumbass at best, and at worst a liberal who’s too scared to confront the reality of the subject matter because it makes him uncomfortable. Obviously context matters. If you have 10 chapters of a black character being abused verbally or physically with nothing else to say, that’s just racist torture porn and it’s no surprise that you attract fascists. Tarantino has a bunch of racist white guys in Django saying all sorts of slurs and committing racist violence, and they all get killed at the end. There are black people who dislike this, but every black person I know who’s talked about this think it’s badass and funny (and most online discourse from black people is positive), meanwhile “white people discourse” is split on the topic because surprise, racist white people don’t like seeing themselves getting their heads blown off and they make up a large portion of western society.
Should we ban Catcher in the Rye and To Kill a Mockingbird because it might encourage someone to shoot pop stars? Should we ban rap music because they might attract white boys who want to act “ghetto” when they never experienced the trenches?
From a narrative perspective, sexualization really should be used sparingly and with a direct purpose, so it doesn't veer into bad taste territory.
Lol is this just an extension of “movie bad because they have sex without any narrative reason”? People fuck. People lust. People will call you horrible slurs when they’re being bigoted. You don’t need to be like Narcos or The Sopranos and show the protagonist fucking every 5 scenes, but guess what? People fuck without any other thought besides “dick is hard I must cum now”
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT CONSERVATIVES’ OPINIONS? If we need to consider their feelings every time we create art, then I don’t fucking want anyone creating art because that sounds like a miserable existence. They will misinterpret every god damn thing in existence as being evidence for their murderous fantasies being necessary for a good life. It doesn’t matter how explicit you make your satire, it doesn’t matter if you avoid your slurs and your tits.
I haven’t played it, but I’ve read that you can be a fascist in Disco Elysium despite the game being made by communists. That path apparently makes the game very easy. This is pretty funny, similar to how choosing to be black in that South Park game makes it harder than normal. Should these features not exist because some asshole will misinterpret the meaning?
Conservatives get angry at the phrase “media literacy” because they think the discourse is about how “leftoids think every media is about capitalism bad” and not “you’re a fucking idiot for only caring about the surface level details.” They fail to have any critical thoughts even when it’s regarding meta-discourse. Why should I value their opinions when creating my art unless it’s to further ridicule and denounce them? People don’t make art to convince anyone of anything, and if they do, they should quickly realize how stupid and ineffective it is. And why should leftists only care about The Important Message for every piece of media 24/7? That’s exhausting. And this someone who DOES care about The Important Message 24/7, but sometimes I just want to fucking speed run a game about a bald man murdering the global elite.
Because real life anti black racism involves calling people the n word? Lmao if someone tries to depict “realistic” racism and the racist is saying every word except the n word, I would say the author is an annoying dumbass at best, and at worst a liberal who’s too scared to confront the reality of the subject matter because it makes him uncomfortable.
See if I was writing about non-fiction then sure, use the n-word. You're talking about an actual event, so context is different. But what I was getting at is realistic fiction, which is still fake.
If someone wants to read the n-word in a book AND learn about racism, they should probably pick up a book that talks about events that actually happened instead of engage in fiction.
Because hot people doing things is fun sometimes. Not everything needs to be deep. And please don’t say “everything is political.” Yes, it is. We can link Stardew Valley to neo-imperialism in Nigeria and it would be completely valid. But sometimes you just wanna see girls with big butts eviscerating an ancient martial arts demi god even if the moral of the story is “wow family and friends are very important to society”
Bestie, enjoy your virtual ass and boobs idgaf about taking away your fun. Just don't panic when other people call out bad media.
No one here thinks you're sexist bc you like vg girls
No one here thinks you're sexist bc you like vg girls
I don't even like the games in OP's post lol. I just find it silly that we need to tip toe around things in art because some asshole will support the complete opposite of the message.
See if I was writing about non-fiction then sure, use the n-word. You're talking about an actual event, so context is different. But what I was getting at is realistic fiction, which is still fake.
If someone wants to read the n-word in a book AND learn about racism, they should probably pick up a book that talks about events that actually happened instead of engage in fiction.
I have no idea what you're trying to argue here anymore. So in your hypothetical realistic fictional book about anti black racism, what, black people are called badoinks or something? What even is the point of your fictional book on racism if racism shouldn't be allowed to be shown? You gonna have cops kill unarmed black people? You shouldn't do that because some white guy might side with the cop. You're gonna make bankers steal a black family's home? You can't do that because a banker might say they deserved it for not paying their mortgage. What's the point of fiction unless it involves fucking dragons, but no not the metaphorical kind since you should just read a fucking history book instead, but literally just a big lizard crawling around the forest because it runs on primal instincts. And for the record I'm not insisting anyone include slurs everywhere, I just find YOUR reasoning absurd because I have to care about what some racist white fucker thinks about my creation to write about him? Fuck off
Because hot people doing things is fun sometimes. Not everything needs to be deep. And please don’t say “everything is political.” Yes, it is. We can link Stardew Valley to neo-imperialism in Nigeria and it would be completely valid. But sometimes you just wanna see girls with big butts eviscerating an ancient martial arts demi god even if the moral of the story is “wow family and friends are very important to society”
Because real life anti black racism involves calling people the n word? Lmao if someone tries to depict “realistic” racism and the racist is saying every word except the n word, I would say the author is an annoying dumbass at best, and at worst a liberal who’s too scared to confront the reality of the subject matter because it makes him uncomfortable. Obviously context matters. If you have 10 chapters of a black character being abused verbally or physically with nothing else to say, that’s just racist torture porn and it’s no surprise that you attract fascists. Tarantino has a bunch of racist white guys in Django saying all sorts of slurs and committing racist violence, and they all get killed at the end. There are black people who dislike this, but every black person I know who’s talked about this think it’s badass and funny (and most online discourse from black people is positive), meanwhile “white people discourse” is split on the topic because surprise, racist white people don’t like seeing themselves getting their heads blown off and they make up a large portion of western society.
Should we ban Catcher in the Rye and To Kill a Mockingbird because it might encourage someone to shoot pop stars? Should we ban rap music because they might attract white boys who want to act “ghetto” when they never experienced the trenches?
Lol is this just an extension of “movie bad because they have sex without any narrative reason”? People fuck. People lust. People will call you horrible slurs when they’re being bigoted. You don’t need to be like Narcos or The Sopranos and show the protagonist fucking every 5 scenes, but guess what? People fuck without any other thought besides “dick is hard I must cum now”
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT CONSERVATIVES’ OPINIONS? If we need to consider their feelings every time we create art, then I don’t fucking want anyone creating art because that sounds like a miserable existence. They will misinterpret every god damn thing in existence as being evidence for their murderous fantasies being necessary for a good life. It doesn’t matter how explicit you make your satire, it doesn’t matter if you avoid your slurs and your tits.
I haven’t played it, but I’ve read that you can be a fascist in Disco Elysium despite the game being made by communists. That path apparently makes the game very easy. This is pretty funny, similar to how choosing to be black in that South Park game makes it harder than normal. Should these features not exist because some asshole will misinterpret the meaning?
Conservatives get angry at the phrase “media literacy” because they think the discourse is about how “leftoids think every media is about capitalism bad” and not “you’re a fucking idiot for only caring about the surface level details.” They fail to have any critical thoughts even when it’s regarding meta-discourse. Why should I value their opinions when creating my art unless it’s to further ridicule and denounce them? People don’t make art to convince anyone of anything, and if they do, they should quickly realize how stupid and ineffective it is. And why should leftists only care about The Important Message for every piece of media 24/7? That’s exhausting. And this someone who DOES care about The Important Message 24/7, but sometimes I just want to fucking speed run a game about a bald man murdering the global elite.
See if I was writing about non-fiction then sure, use the n-word. You're talking about an actual event, so context is different. But what I was getting at is realistic fiction, which is still fake.
If someone wants to read the n-word in a book AND learn about racism, they should probably pick up a book that talks about events that actually happened instead of engage in fiction.
Bestie, enjoy your virtual ass and boobs idgaf about taking away your fun. Just don't panic when other people call out bad media.
No one here thinks you're sexist bc you like vg girls
I don't even like the games in OP's post lol. I just find it silly that we need to tip toe around things in art because some asshole will support the complete opposite of the message.
I have no idea what you're trying to argue here anymore. So in your hypothetical realistic fictional book about anti black racism, what, black people are called badoinks or something? What even is the point of your fictional book on racism if racism shouldn't be allowed to be shown? You gonna have cops kill unarmed black people? You shouldn't do that because some white guy might side with the cop. You're gonna make bankers steal a black family's home? You can't do that because a banker might say they deserved it for not paying their mortgage. What's the point of fiction unless it involves fucking dragons, but no not the metaphorical kind since you should just read a fucking history book instead, but literally just a big lizard crawling around the forest because it runs on primal instincts. And for the record I'm not insisting anyone include slurs everywhere, I just find YOUR reasoning absurd because I have to care about what some racist white fucker thinks about my creation to write about him? Fuck off