• Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    You forgot about the part of option 2 where you realize midway through explaining that the other person either understood and you misread the situation, or they just don't care, but now you've gotten too far into the explanation and you just have to power through even though literally every fiber of your being is telling you to shut up

    ... wait

  • Nora@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Option 3: I work in IT. I see on a daily basis people with bachelor's and PHDs doing some of the stupidest shit. I assume no one knows fuck all.

    Them: "My camera for teams isn't working please help!"

    Me: Flicks open the webcam cover and smiles trying not to make them feel too bad😅

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
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      3 months ago

      The older I get the more I kick myself for "knowing" I'm too stupid for a PhD or master's in anything.

      I've always had an interest in science, I love watching something like PBS spacetime or fermilab videos (because I'm obviously a layman and won't understand anything actually detailed), but I've always held this belief that I'm "wayyyy too stupid to actually do the work." and then I hear story after story of "very smart people" simply not understanding the simplest of concepts.

      Oh well lol

      • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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        3 months ago

        then I hear story after story of "very smart people" simply not understanding the simplest of concepts.

        Usually this is because their knowledge and skills go very deep, but not very wide. There is also a big divide between the practical side of things and the theoretical. Another thing I’ve noticed is that if you spend a lot of time working on very complicated problems you tend to forget that most things have simple solutions. So when confronted with a simple issue your mind kind of ‘skips over’ all the simple stuff and immediately assumes it must be something complicated.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 months ago

          i like to classify this problem as an optimization problem more than anything.

          The simplest possible solution is an impossible feat, and varies depending on the requirements and shenanigans willing to be committed. The approximate simplest possible solution is very achievable, but requires a lot of thought, a very specific use case, and an established ecosystem. The most functional solution is whatever you manage to cobble together quickly enough to prove that it's possible, only for it to be used for about 3 years, because it works finetm

          Anything else is a nightmare abomination and should never be classified, exposed to the light of day, or shown to other people. Except as a cautionary tale.

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      3 months ago

      Having received a screenshot of an Excel spreadsheet, embedded into a Word document, I always go option 3.

      I'm also old enough to have had to explain why a 27MB Publisher file could not fit on a floppy disk to be sent to the printers.

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    that's a thing, sure, but at least personally most of the time it's neither of these, it's "i have so much knowledge of this topic lodged inside my brain that it's fighting to escape and i have a profound need to talk about it to others, and there is no greater joy in life than having a person ask follow-up questions"

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      you will fucking love sociology and philosophy then.

      the cycle goes something like this:

      • You write a shitty book about philosophy.
      • Someone else reads your shitty book. Decides they have a lot of thoughts on your shitty book, and then write their own shitty book about it.
      • You then read that book, because now reading is the only thing you do in your time ever (on account of the philosophy) and now you have more thoughts on the topic, and so you write another shitty book.

      And this is how we get shit like "incars" philosophy is truly incredible.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      In theory, asking them first makes sense, but when you're me, and your nerdy interest is in stuff like nuclear reactors and linux. You don't bother asking because 90% of the time, you either know who you're talking to, and can assume that they have a similar level of knowledge, or you assume they don't because you're pretty certain they don't and it works well 99% of the time.

  • mathemachristian [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    I understand that but what if they actually donu understand me and I have done a terrible job of expressing myself

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      You can’t control how people react to you, unfortunately. This has been my mantra for about a year now and it’s incredible how much I’ve caught myself attempting the Sisyphean task of taking control over how people perceive me and react to that perception. There’s no point in wrestling people into communicating with you properly. It usually just results in anxiety or in you accidentally communicating extra information that you didn’t intend.

      • mathemachristian [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        For me it's not how people react to me, it's more that I find it absurdly important to get point I'm trying to make across perfectly and try to prevent any possible miscommunication

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    usually when i'm getting into some really nerdy shit, i tend to explain the ever living hell out of it, because shits complicated as fuck.

    I could ask whether the other party knows it, but let's be real, i'm enjoying myself too much to ask lmao. Just tell me to stop and i will.

  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Oh man this hits hard.

    I've been working on a project at work lately and everything I explain to people about it (namely people above my boss), I feel like I have to give like 5 years of backstory first.

  • arf@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    As the goto "Tech Support person" in my friend group, this really strikes a nerve. I really hope I haven't come off as a know-it-all. Trying to explain any kind of broad subject feels like playing pinball with all the thoughts in my brain while trying not to let the conversation flow sink into the gutter.

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    I ask what people know about a topic before I start. Most people don’t like being put on the spot to prove their knowledge about a random topic, but it seems to work better and be more engaging than just assuming they do or don’t know and dumping accordingly.