this isn't new (2016 article by the author about their book - The 4-H Harvest: Sexuality and the State in Rural America by Gabriel N. Rosenberg, Assistant Professor of Women’s Studies at Duke University), but i was reminded of it lately and the popular misconceptions of the rural US and its recent history. i think people here might find it interesting.

The truth is that life on farms from the Atlantic Seaboard to California bore little resemblance to the nostalgic ideal suggested by contemporary imaginings of the family farm. Populations were transient, families were chaotic and broken, sexual taboos were flouted, and the romanticism of “Little House on the Prairie” pioneering collapsed on its first contact with the material realities of violence, deprivation, disorder, loneliness, and longing that better characterized the peripheries of America’s agricultural empire.

High morbidity rates, particularly during childbirth, meant that remarriage was common, and families might be composed of multiple primary couples or even the reassembled components of those pairs once severed by death or flight. Spouses often split over the decision to relocate. Other couples split and separately relocated as a solution to restrictive 19th-century divorce laws. As a consequence, casual, if quiet bigamists were commonplace in frontier communities.

Regardless, many settlers left families in the East and attempted to create new ones in the West. Constituting new families among the scattered and diverse population of the West often involved cross-class and cross-race marriages that would have been unthinkable in Eastern urban communities. Forced resettlement frequently shattered slave families and forced enslaved people to repeatedly reconstitute their families.

Rural people applied a make-do attitude not just to work and family, but to sexual intimacy as well. Camps, bunkhouses, lodges, taverns, and saloons were spaces rife with intimate and sexual relations that directly contravened dominant middle-class notions of sexual propriety: homosexuality, sexual barter and commerce, public and semi-public sex, and cross-dressing and gender fluidity.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
    hexbear
    19
    2 years ago

    Idk if the article mentions it but I wanted to add that "family farms" are pretty much a myth these days. Most of what are counted as "farms" are just rich people's big lawns where they grow nothing but grass. They keep it that way to maintain the myth.

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
      hexbear
      10
      2 years ago

      totally what i thought the article was going to be about too lmao. modern farms are almost all untenable without masses of immigrant labor--i.e. much too large for a "family" to run, they're just owned by a family and not necessarily taking investors.

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      8
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I think you are being a bit hyperbolic to say they're "pretty much a myth," you can find many subsistence farmer types on inherited land around the Midwest periphery at least; including my brother who is raising chickens and growing vegetables on the plot of swampland my great-great-grandparents settled on.

      I agree that it's not as significant a segment of the population as some would have you believe, that these people are politically irrelevant, and many of the newer generations went on to find wealth while just holding onto the old family property; but it's also not a myth.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
        hexbear
        4
        2 years ago

        I agree that it’s not as significant a segment of the population as some would have you believe, that these people are politically irrelevant, and many of the newer generations went on to find wealth while just holding onto the old family property

        That's what I meant by, "pretty much a myth." Not that nobody is doing it, just that much fewer people are doing it than what many people believe.

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
          hexbear
          3
          2 years ago

          Right on, why I went with Hyperbolic instead of trying to just debatebro you about it. Characterizing it as a myth kind of implies it is made-up to justify something when I see it more as a disintegrating facet of what was a part of the culture that people idealistically cling to (like my brother, who sees his attempt at continuing the lifestyle virtuous in a way.)

          Sorry if it came across as annoying pedantry.

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      6
      2 years ago

      he specifically mentions the broad and meaningless term that accounts for like 97% of all farms, including multi thousand acre incorporated kingdoms with hundreds of employees and once included similarly sized cotton plantations with several hundred slaves.

      the author has written multiple articles that appeared in various places (still online, searchable) about the broader topic of the book (state power and urban reformers manufacturing rural imaginaries) that focus more or less on the different ways these have wildly shifted our perception of what is and has historically gone on in the rural US, creating a myth requiring intense state support to maintain in a peripheral place. though it is crucial to the rhetoric of today's political posturing, it is one of the places that has been materially hollowed out as well and facing heightening contradictions.

      I'd suggest reading at least this one. it's not very long.

    • CommunistBarbie [she/her]
      hexbear
      6
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      no, you see deviant sexuality and gender ideology is a globo homo conspiracy pushed by the cia alphabet mafia. I am normal and definitely not a bigot that should be lined up and shot.

      :speech-r::stupidpol:

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      3
      2 years ago

      totally. I've read other configurations the author has posted of this material, teasing the book and in one he talks about how these like urban, wealthy "progressives" were touring county fairs only to realize they were basically drunken gender fluid orgies for farm workers and their communities. the city people flipped out and went back to complain to government representatives about how this all had to be stopped.

      it's not a coincidence that, around the same time, socialism had major clout in rural communities while urban capital was viewed with deep distrust, if not hatred.

      it was in this context rural America was completely reimagined and reconfigured by the state and massive institutions controlled by capital via a complex social process that continues to this day.

      I think a lot about how the rural US will change as the supports for that process are further cannibalized under neoliberalism. Franco used policies to drastically depopulate parts of Spain and there are parallels in the US, but it is happening slower and clumsier here as the natural resource base is less understood (historically) and broader/more complex.

  • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
    hexbear
    17
    2 years ago

    The truth is that life on farms from the Atlantic Seaboard to California bore little resemblance to the nostalgic ideal suggested by contemporary imaginings of the family farm. [...] Camps, bunkhouses, lodges, taverns, and saloons were spaces rife with intimate and sexual relations that directly contravened dominant middle-class notions of sexual propriety: homosexuality, sexual barter and commerce, public and semi-public sex, and cross-dressing and gender fluidity.

    If HBO made a show about this I would probably watch it.

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
    hexbear
    8
    2 years ago

    Maybe I’ll put some links together about Michael Pollan’s (NYT food lib) fawning for Joel Salatin (Libertarian Psycho) but it’s a good Rabbit hole. “Maintenance Phase” and “Farm to Taber” both had good episodes, and I think the website of disgruntled former Interns from Polyface is still up.

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      4
      2 years ago

      please post the link to the disgruntled intern site! I was once one a starry-eyed one myself. not at Polyface, but other places many years ago in the southeastern US run by various megalomaniacs.

      now I am in a position where I can steer young people in my orbit away from shitheads like him, but it's all informal and I would love the opportunity to reach out to whoever is curating that to amplify the voices of farmworkers taken advantage of by assholes relying on that hype machine.

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexagon
          hexbear
          2
          2 years ago

          thanks for sharing this. still working my way through. providing them with known-to-be-contaminated water and the mythology of "you'll get sick because you're working so hard for the first time in your life" is fucking legit criminal and evil.

          i worked for some real narcissistic assholes, but nothing like that. if someone had done that to me and my coworkers I would've smashed their fucking hands and knees with a hammer. I'd do it in front of witnesses. I'd take the ag assault and eat the 2-4 years for it. I don't give a fuck. that shit cannot be allowed to stand and that motherfucker should wince with every step he takes and every tool he grasps for the rest of his life.

          I've heard rumors of assholism about Polyface and their model is certainly set up for hardcore exploitation, but this is some high octane bullshit.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
      hexbear
      2
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Which is why I buy all my feed and seed at Sneed’s