Why're you still arguing a point no one made? Tell me one place where I said he hasn't read Lenin. Or even that he doesn't like Lenin. I"m the one who fucking posted this thread!!!
But just reading Lenin doesn't make you a Leninist. He has to actually believe in Leninism (as a political ideology) - in Leninist principles of party organizing, the importance of a vanguard to the revolution etc. He does not believe a revolution is possible in the West. He believes in Democratic Socialism - using electoralism and trade unions to slowly convert society to socialism. Hasan doesn't even fully believe in the value theory of labour! He frequently states that all value comes from labour etc. But he also states that value is subjective in a way that Marx didn't account for. I disagree with him on this point; I think he hasn't read Marx correctly. Just like I disagree with him on the viability of a Democratic Socialist transition away from capitalism in the West. But my disagreement with Hasan is a non-issue.
Hasan is a Democratic Socialist. Why? Because he says he is, and he's given no indication that he's lying about it.
I'm going to stop arguing with you at this point. I've realized it's pointless. You keep arguing points no one is making, and seem to believe Hasan is hiding his true Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Third-Worldist beliefs from everyone but still dropping hints to his true power levels with literally no evidence to support it, just vibes. Go ahead, man. Hasan is totally building a guerrilla vanguard party in the mountains of Appalachia that is going to overthrow the US.
I don't know what this big post is about. I just thought it was cool that he told his audience to read Lenin's books and wanted to show other people. Are you okay?
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Why're you still arguing a point no one made? Tell me one place where I said he hasn't read Lenin. Or even that he doesn't like Lenin. I"m the one who fucking posted this thread!!!
But just reading Lenin doesn't make you a Leninist. He has to actually believe in Leninism (as a political ideology) - in Leninist principles of party organizing, the importance of a vanguard to the revolution etc. He does not believe a revolution is possible in the West. He believes in Democratic Socialism - using electoralism and trade unions to slowly convert society to socialism. Hasan doesn't even fully believe in the value theory of labour! He frequently states that all value comes from labour etc. But he also states that value is subjective in a way that Marx didn't account for. I disagree with him on this point; I think he hasn't read Marx correctly. Just like I disagree with him on the viability of a Democratic Socialist transition away from capitalism in the West. But my disagreement with Hasan is a non-issue.
Hasan is a Democratic Socialist. Why? Because he says he is, and he's given no indication that he's lying about it.
I'm going to stop arguing with you at this point. I've realized it's pointless. You keep arguing points no one is making, and seem to believe Hasan is hiding his true Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Third-Worldist beliefs from everyone but still dropping hints to his true power levels with literally no evidence to support it, just vibes. Go ahead, man. Hasan is totally building a guerrilla vanguard party in the mountains of Appalachia that is going to overthrow the US.
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We've been discussing whether Hasan's a DemSoc or not, and I thought this was the latest comment in that thread, not a standalone comment.
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he is a wrecker at this point
I don't know what this big post is about. I just thought it was cool that he told his audience to read Lenin's books and wanted to show other people. Are you okay?
My bad. I thought your comment was a part of the thread where we were arguing back and forth, not a standalone comment.
why are you always getting into pointless arguments
Death to America
I'm legit beginning to think he's doing this on purpose.