• Nephy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Can you imagine how funny it would be if China did the hyperloop

  • raven [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Trying to build evacuated tube maglev trains in a country with no existing train infrastructure :geordi-no:

    Experimenting with evacuated tube maglevs in a country where you're already maxing out speed using simpler methods :geordi-yes:

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    C'mon Xi, you were supposed to be above this sillynes

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      Given all the pictures of space craft in the background, I'm going to guess they're looking at this as a potential method of space launch, not intercity transport.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Space elevator in a vacuum tube? That's even sillier

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          2 years ago

          Not like that, you build a ~100 mile long vactrain into the side of a mountain, accelerate ~10 g for ~10 minutes, and then you only need a little delta v to circularize the orbit.

          • RNAi [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Aaah, a mountain-sized space yeeter

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    swear to god china is one of the only countries that actually cares about materially advancing our world to the next stage of development through long term planning and strategic investment

    as humans we naturally tend to try to progress and improve our tech but capitalism really is just running around with its head cut off at this point

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Just to be clear, the problem with Hyperloop and related infrastructure plans isn't that Elon Musk wants them so they are automatically bad, it's that 1) the cost per kilometer to lay "track" (vacuum tube with a maglev rail inside along with all of the necessary vacuum pumping hardware) like this is comically expensive and 2) the fundamental concept of a hyperloop is extremely difficult to design any failure tolerance into, meaning that small problems can lead to mega-million dollar damage and loss of life events.

    It's still safe to assume that if Elon likes an idea, it is a bad idea. But this one is bad for a more fundamental reason than just because he likes it.

    • Vampire [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I admitI haven't looked into "Hyperloop", but I thought it was something different from the VacMagLev that Gerard O'Neill and others talked about.

      Searching for it now, I see references to a "cushion of air", so it's a different thing. https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/6rph81/hold_up_hyperloop_glides_on_a_cushion_of_air/

      • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The fundamental concept is a vehicle traveling in a vacuum tube. Making this a high vacuum tube is too much of a joke for even Ol' Musky to suggest, so the consensus is that these hyperloop-family devices use low vacuum just because it's more feasible. Air resistance is only one major source of friction though, the other is the friction between the car and the track. The air bearing idea, which is to essentially fit the car and the track together with tightly toleranced metal and pump a small amount of high pressure air in the gap to keep the rail and the car isolated, is a viable way of getting a low friction interface, but for various reasons magnetic levitation, where the train and the track are isolated by magnetic or supermagnetic forces, has kind of rendered it obsolete afaik (also, maglev and air bearings are mutually exclusive unless they're doing something really weird).

        • Vampire [any]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Nice one, thanks for the explanation

          :sankara-salute: