"Just use cli bro" yeah okay, yay might be less trouble, but I like being able to keyword-search the AUR and flatpak and stuff.

I moved from Manjaro linux(icky, run by libertarians I think, smelly) to EndeavourOS(based, presumably run by commies and anarchsists, sexy) for a bunch of reasons, like Endeavour runs really well even from an old hard drive, it's a great OS. I kind of miss Pamac though.

From Mint to Manjaro I've always preferred the graphical program-installation way, which is probably windows brainworms that just won't leave. Having to yay s and remember xfce4-sensors-plugin without typos is a lot more annoying than just punching "sensors" into a search bar, so Endeavour's lack of a GUI installer is kind of troublesome to me. I tried just installing Pamac but it's made by Manjaro devs and errors out with exit status 8 or 4 more than half the time. Instead of digging in my heels and yelling about wanting Pamac to work, what else can I use on Endeavour to achieve the same ends?

  • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
    ·
    8 months ago

    I got spooked by all the aur installers having security issues(any aur installer pulls user written scripts that don't have a little oversight).

    I know its the opposite of what you want, but seriously, its typically a 3-4 step process to get software from the Aur.

    1. Search "<some app> arch aur"
    2. find the aur link, check when it was last updated and the comments below to ensure there's nothing glaringly bad
    3. copy the link by clicking it
    4. cd to your downloads folder

    4.a. git clone <aur link>

    4.b. cd <aur package>

    4.c. makepkg

    4.d. pacman -U <package>.tar.zst

    Obviously more than 4 steps, but half of those are clicking a link and going to a folder. the important steps are 4.x.

    IMO its worth the handful of extra steps because you genuinely cant trust these packages. If you want to update, go to the cloned dir, run git pull and repeat 4.c and 4.d and it will replace the other version, easily downgrade if you don't delete the old .zst, etc.

    • ashinadash [she/her]
      ·
      8 months ago

      He thinks I'm gonna build a package on an Atom N570 data-laughing

      Never seen pacman -U before, neato. I also did not know you could git pull to update a package! So you wouldn't even recommend using yay most days?

      • thisismyrealname [he/him]
        ·
        8 months ago

        all aur helpers do is automate that process, so you are already building packages on an Atom

        • ashinadash [she/her]
          ·
          8 months ago

          Only some, not all of em need built, or at least most are a lot faster. Is there really no difference? I have a couple smelly PCs that do not cope well with the build process.

          • thisismyrealname [he/him]
            ·
            8 months ago

            yay and most other AUR helpers also install normal Arch packages, which are prebuilt.

            • ashinadash [she/her]
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              8 months ago

              Beloved prebuilt packages that don't make CULV computers scream for blood <3