It's a thing. I'm always on the side of "obviously if it's okay for one it should be okay for the other too" and nobody ever has a coherent retort, but damn have I felt creepy the few times I've talked about it.
It can come off as :awooga: when dudes talk about this, but it is the correct stance in my opinion. In places were it would be inappropriate, i wouldn't want men to be shirtless, either. And i absolutely think every woman should be allowed to decide for herself if she wants to be topless at the beach, at a spa etc. It really makes no sense to gender this even before we're bringing trans and nonbinary people into the equation, there's also totally flat chested cis women and there's cis men with b cups. Yet the former have to cover their nipples and the latter don't? That's only explainable when a nipple somehow, magically, is imbued with extra indecency powers when it is surrounded by le fEeEeEeEeEmaLe fOrM. And that is what is going on here, the entire idea that women need to cover their chest and men don't rests on the notion that women are "the sex gender". That our bodies are inherently sexual and men's bodies are not. That's mysogynist bs, so laws treating a female body as more sexual than a male one are also mysogynist bs and have to go.
It's a thing. I'm always on the side of "obviously if it's okay for one it should be okay for the other too" and nobody ever has a coherent retort, but damn have I felt creepy the few times I've talked about it.
It can come off as :awooga: when dudes talk about this, but it is the correct stance in my opinion. In places were it would be inappropriate, i wouldn't want men to be shirtless, either. And i absolutely think every woman should be allowed to decide for herself if she wants to be topless at the beach, at a spa etc. It really makes no sense to gender this even before we're bringing trans and nonbinary people into the equation, there's also totally flat chested cis women and there's cis men with b cups. Yet the former have to cover their nipples and the latter don't? That's only explainable when a nipple somehow, magically, is imbued with extra indecency powers when it is surrounded by le fEeEeEeEeEmaLe fOrM. And that is what is going on here, the entire idea that women need to cover their chest and men don't rests on the notion that women are "the sex gender". That our bodies are inherently sexual and men's bodies are not. That's mysogynist bs, so laws treating a female body as more sexual than a male one are also mysogynist bs and have to go.