And then unironically say that sexism isn't a thing anymore?

  • Thylacine [any]
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    2 years ago

    I read a blog post about a leftist cis woman media figure who spent a day walking around topless because her location either legally allowed it or didn't not allow it. I think the blog was written by someone that was with her that day, and what I mostly remember from reading it is her just hanging out and doing normal things and angry cops saying things like "I know it's legal so I can't arrest you, but there's kids around so maybe put on a shirt or get out of here".

    and I do kinda think about that a lot

  • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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    2 years ago

    Completely get what you’re saying and agree with the core point, but it’s weird to make this about “AMAB people” rather than cis men. Lots of AMAB people are women, lots of those women have boobs, and they absolutely would get arrested in places where it’s illegal to show boobs

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      also the occasional news story about a breast cancer survivors doing kinda lib activism in jurisdictions where nipple is specified in the law.

      actually come to think if it there was one with a trans person who used nipple laws to force a municipality to choose between recognizing their gender and the nipple thing.

      • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        there was one with a trans person who used nipple laws to force a municipality to choose between recognizing their gender and the nipple thing.

        lol that’s rad

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Sexism isn't a thing with the VolCel Police because no one is allowed to go shirtless. :volcel-judge:

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Or is everyone shirtless but breasts have been desexualized

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      Diversity win! The repressive patriarchal culture around sex is run by non-discriminating leftists now!

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's a thing. I'm always on the side of "obviously if it's okay for one it should be okay for the other too" and nobody ever has a coherent retort, but damn have I felt creepy the few times I've talked about it.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It can come off as :awooga: when dudes talk about this, but it is the correct stance in my opinion. In places were it would be inappropriate, i wouldn't want men to be shirtless, either. And i absolutely think every woman should be allowed to decide for herself if she wants to be topless at the beach, at a spa etc. It really makes no sense to gender this even before we're bringing trans and nonbinary people into the equation, there's also totally flat chested cis women and there's cis men with b cups. Yet the former have to cover their nipples and the latter don't? That's only explainable when a nipple somehow, magically, is imbued with extra indecency powers when it is surrounded by le fEeEeEeEeEmaLe fOrM. And that is what is going on here, the entire idea that women need to cover their chest and men don't rests on the notion that women are "the sex gender". That our bodies are inherently sexual and men's bodies are not. That's mysogynist bs, so laws treating a female body as more sexual than a male one are also mysogynist bs and have to go.

  • boog [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    weird to see this post because i literally had a dream last night where i was back in school failing my math class and i was just standing around in my underwear. i wasnt even embarrassed. it was just really warm. even my classmate was in his underwear. no one seemed to think it was weird. at the end of the class the teacher passed out the corrected homework that i didnt do last time so she gave me a hat that had 'dumbass' written on it :angery:

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Solidarity from a cis man who once got confronted by security at Disney World and told to put my shirt back on because apparently I was "distracting".

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    yeah fucking arrest those assholes. The male nipple is offensive :gulag:

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    There was this French video I watched a number of years ago that imagined a society where the indecency rules were gender swapped. I tried finding it again, but no luck. I remember having mixed feelings about the portrayal at the time, but it was at least an interesting thing to watch and think about.

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Never do this near a playground though.