No, that's not what I'm saying. I agree that notions like shininess are necessary to fully describe how things appear to us, and that we can't hope to imagine another person's perspective if we ignore their own descriptions of it. But we did move beyond the Newtonian model—hundreds of years ago—so it seemed odd to me that that would be the contrast to draw and call to make in 2017. Modern descriptions do, in fact, go beyond mere diffuse colour, as shown by the need for them in the creation of photorealistic images with computers. And the absence of those struck me.
I'm not trying to tear the article apart here, just engage with it. As I said before, I think it's worth reading for the philosophical and cultural considerations of visual perception, and for the history of pigments. It's just that it left me with the impression—one I recognise could be completely wrong—that the writer hadn't explored modern notions as fully as they could, which seemed important given that one half of the comparison is to us as modern people.
It seems my earlier response was eaten, so I'll be brief. Thanks for posting this essay, and thanks for encouraging me to re-read it. That helped identify the causes of my first impression. Essentially, the two Newton references in the concluding paragraph give an undue weighting, producing a framing effect that, ahem, colours my view.
No, that's not what I'm saying. I agree that notions like shininess are necessary to fully describe how things appear to us, and that we can't hope to imagine another person's perspective if we ignore their own descriptions of it. But we did move beyond the Newtonian model—hundreds of years ago—so it seemed odd to me that that would be the contrast to draw and call to make in 2017. Modern descriptions do, in fact, go beyond mere diffuse colour, as shown by the need for them in the creation of photorealistic images with computers. And the absence of those struck me.
I'm not trying to tear the article apart here, just engage with it. As I said before, I think it's worth reading for the philosophical and cultural considerations of visual perception, and for the history of pigments. It's just that it left me with the impression—one I recognise could be completely wrong—that the writer hadn't explored modern notions as fully as they could, which seemed important given that one half of the comparison is to us as modern people.
It did move beyond it. The article clearly considers other methods. I really don't know what to say here.
It seems my earlier response was eaten, so I'll be brief. Thanks for posting this essay, and thanks for encouraging me to re-read it. That helped identify the causes of my first impression. Essentially, the two Newton references in the concluding paragraph give an undue weighting, producing a framing effect that, ahem, colours my view.