I just saw The Menu (very good) and the military regime-esque sycophantic "YES CHEF" chants repulsed me. Gordon Ramsay has made a career out of screaming insults at his workers. How much of this is true to life and what is the leftist view on it?

I worked as a dish-hand and started and quit in the same weekend. Unbelievably high pressure and aggression from your co-workers. Is the answer "if they're well paid and have adequate time off it's fine"? Can a high pressure environment work with politeness and tact? Is the grotesque heirachy inherent in these workplaces?

I haven't read much so I have no clue.

  • knifestealingcrow [any]
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    2 years ago

    Wait fuck uhh restaurant workers bourgeois, the proletariat is when have hammer

      • fifthedition [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I remember reading this cool story about the first restaurant to open after Mao died. By then, eating out was such a foreign experience that people did not quite know what to do. The customers washed their own dishes afterwards, for example.

      • knifestealingcrow [any]
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        2 years ago

        Ah I thought it was the "service work doesn't actually add value to the product (dumbass statement) unlike the people who farm and process the beans and are therefore not a part of the proletariat". Tbf there was also the "expecting able-bodied people to go and pick up their own takeout instead of getting a gig worker to do it for them is ableist" discourse so it's not like there's a shortage of twitter restaurant discourse

        Your twitter restaurant discourse I can at least see the reasoning behind. Like so many other things, it's not inherently exploitative but under capitalism it absolutely is. I agree that people who can cook for themselves should do so as much as possible, but no restaurants under communism is honestly laughable because I'd open one the second I could and make the food free if I didn't have to worry about survival. They might not be the exact same as what they are now but people are always going to want well-prepared food they don't normally have access to, and it's not like people are going to stop getting hungry at inconvenient times.

      • bubbalu [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        This would be a lot of wasted effort. One of the key steps Cuba took towards women's liberation was the collectivization of domestic labor through e.g. neighborhood canteens and cafeterias. Not exactly a restaurant experience, but absolutely still eating out!

          • bubbalu [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Definitely, two completely different goals. In the same way that there will still be concerts and orchestras and things, there will still be room for lovingly made art-food. Just hopefully it is rationed and made fairly. Personally, I quite enjoy fast paced food service work when it's not understaffed!

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      Hammer make best spaghetti! :anti-italian-action: