• edge [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Did you read what I said? It should never interfere with regular functionality. Done right, the "smart" part could be completely fried but the grill still works. If that's not the case, then it's not a good smart device. But it's entirely possible to make that.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I did read what you said but I don't believe that's a feasible expectation of anything the consumer tech industry would put out. I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven

      • edge [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Did you read it all, because right after that I said:

        Of course most companies don’t care about that.


        I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven

        It depends on what you mean by "improve". Smart devices are mainly to provide convenience not to make it do its job better.

        A smart oven/grill would let you change the temperature from anywhere, set it to preheat before even getting to it (imagine preheating your oven while on your train ride home from work, so it's ready as soon as you get home), check the current temperature, check if it's off or turn it off for peace of mind if you think you forgot to turn it off, etc.

        None of that is necessary, but it's convenient. And as long as it can't interfere with normal operation, it's fine.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps and to deal with the issues that come with connecting a device to a network. That would be one thing if it was a device that would benefit significantly from the data management or math capabilities of a computer. But in the case of an oven it's just silly

          if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn't make sense to add.

          A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse

          • edge [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps

            The smart part would be a temperature sensor, a connection to the spark, and a potentiometer or something to control the temp. The regular old button for the spark would be connected in parallel so it still works if the computer is down. Similar for the knob. Absolutely no interference with regular operation, so the extra complexity doesn't matter.

            if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn’t make sense to add.

            But the spoon would still work if the chip died. That's my point.

            A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse

            It is, but who cares. If you don't think it's useful to you don't get it.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              It is, but who cares. If you don’t think it’s useful to you don’t get it.

              I wasn't saying people who buy it are dumb and bad I am saying that as a technological movement I do not like the trend it is leading technology down