Why does a grill need wifi or anything computer based at all??
So the company can learn about your behaviour, then sell it to another company which combines that data with similar data from other household appliances, cookies in your browser, your car, etc. so the most comprehensive personal profile imaginable can be assembled and you can get the most relevant marketing so you'll buy more stuff.
Oh, and the NSA is probably also very interested in those profiles.
the most comprehensive personal profile imaginable can be assembled and you can get the most relevant marketing so you’ll buy more stuff
And it doesn't even work that well. No matter how many data points you have there's a limit to how much extra crap you can get people to buy by annoying them with hamfisted consumerist propaganda.
traeger's are smokers (and grills) and they have temperature probes that you can connect to an app to monitor things for long cooks to see if you need to add pellets or increase/reduce the heat. it's pretty convenient tbf
Yep.
The more I learn about the tech scene, the more low-tech alternatives to appliances I want.
Smart stuff can be cool, but the number one rule is it should never interfere with "dumb" functionality.
Of course most companies don't care about that.
smart stuff is a bad idea as computers aren't very reliable and it's a grill what fucking advantage is there in it being able to connect to the wifi.
you want to be able to turn it on when you put things into it and turn it off when you take them out. Both steps require your physical presence. Making a grill smart is just bazinga nonsense
Did you read what I said? It should never interfere with regular functionality. Done right, the "smart" part could be completely fried but the grill still works. If that's not the case, then it's not a good smart device. But it's entirely possible to make that.
I did read what you said but I don't believe that's a feasible expectation of anything the consumer tech industry would put out. I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven
Did you read it all, because right after that I said:
Of course most companies don’t care about that.
I also disagree with the notion that there is anyway computer science can improve an oven
It depends on what you mean by "improve". Smart devices are mainly to provide convenience not to make it do its job better.
A smart oven/grill would let you change the temperature from anywhere, set it to preheat before even getting to it (imagine preheating your oven while on your train ride home from work, so it's ready as soon as you get home), check the current temperature, check if it's off or turn it off for peace of mind if you think you forgot to turn it off, etc.
None of that is necessary, but it's convenient. And as long as it can't interfere with normal operation, it's fine.
I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps and to deal with the issues that come with connecting a device to a network. That would be one thing if it was a device that would benefit significantly from the data management or math capabilities of a computer. But in the case of an oven it's just silly
if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn't make sense to add.
A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse
I think that the semi inherent nature of technology means that they complicate the process. It is adding moving parts to a system with no need of them therefore it makes the system needlessly complex and require management via apps
The smart part would be a temperature sensor, a connection to the spark, and a potentiometer or something to control the temp. The regular old button for the spark would be connected in parallel so it still works if the computer is down. Similar for the knob. Absolutely no interference with regular operation, so the extra complexity doesn't matter.
if someday it becomes feasible to connect a spoon to the internet of things it would still be a silly idea as a computer chip is like any mechanical component only useful for the thing it does well and sometimes that doesn’t make sense to add.
But the spoon would still work if the chip died. That's my point.
A lot of smart technology feels like they decided to add it to the internet of things and then tried to find problems for that to solve. Which is putting the cart before the horse
It is, but who cares. If you don't think it's useful to you don't get it.
It is, but who cares. If you don’t think it’s useful to you don’t get it.
I wasn't saying people who buy it are dumb and bad I am saying that as a technological movement I do not like the trend it is leading technology down
I've seen like three articles in the past couple of months about how cyberpunk dystopias got it all wrong because we're not slotting shards in our heads with our cybernetic arms to wage war against rogue AIs. Meanwhile, corporations rule every facet of our lives, inequality is worse than in the gilded age, war is a constant, and the technocrats who killed the planet are trying to convince us that they're the only ones who can save us. We're literally living in every cyberpunk dystopia imagined, minus the few cool things the writers had to include to make their stories interesting. Gibson, PKD, and Pondsmith were goddamned prophets.
we’re not slotting shards in our heads with our cybernetic
thank God. Do you really want your arm to run on Windows. Remember the last time you couldn't get a printer to work, what if that was your kidneys
this is a real thing, pretty much https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete
they sold the patent to a company that requires you to pay a monthly subscription to maintain use of your eyes
It's not cyberpunk because we don't have cool robot arms and smart guns and flying cars, we just have all the lame parts they were explicitly trying to warn us not to do
Considering how much wasted technical development we have right now, I would argue that even predicting a techno future wasn't wrong per se. I think we could be or be getting there. It's just not actually all that profitable to shape society towards accomplishing innovation on the level of cyberpunk megacorps. So instead, we just get the regular punk future with cyber characteristics.
Stupid grill aside, are they grilling a turkey??? They're huge and would take forever.
I guess they could be smoking one but that would also take a while even if they spatchcock it
i mean what's the fast way to smoke a turkey? my dad did it one year and honestly it was good as fuck
I think in theory you can start it super early in the morning or even the night before if it's that big. Or maybe just using a smaller bird/cutting it up :shrug-outta-hecks:
What kind of :lmayo: asshole puts a turkey on a propane grill? Just put it in the oven, dipshit, it will taste exactly the same.
i bet they pushed a hotfix for a bug that makes the grill explode
