So I heard my friend call an invasive plant a displaced relative and when pressed on it they basically said that the plants didn’t choose to come here and they are victims of colonialism. Invasive implies they aren’t welcome, you wouldn’t say that the enslaved people brought over to the new world are invasive so why would you a plant? Then they said human agriculture was invasive because it’s monoculture and doesn’t allow other plants to grow, which you know fair point. So what’s the consensus is my friend an idiot or am I an idiot?

Edit: I just texted my friend, they said they got the concept from this book. Fresh Banana Leaves: Healing Indigenous Landscapes Through Indigenous Science

  • Yanqui_UXO [any]
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    2 years ago

    Now i'm thinking of the trolley problem :) If one species survives by harming several others, should we let it do so, or remove it to save others? And, moreover, there already has been human intervention--the introduction of the said species into an environment that's normally foreign to them.

    I think our concept is fine, because it just describes a process---animals or plants from another region of the world are artificially introduced into a new environment and begin modifying it to the detriment of its native species. It seems to me your problem is with the word we use for this concept because it is moralizing this process, saying it's a "bad" thing for a species to survive any way it can. Nietzsche would be on your side.

    • chairmantau [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Look this whole thread was inspired by a single book and I just want everyone to at least read a summary of it. Fresh Banana Leaves: Healing Indigenous Landscapes Through Indigenous Science