So, you know how BioShock Infinite does that extremely jarring thing of applying the typical lib anticommunist "both sides suck" thought terminating cliché to a slave revolt? That's probably a product of rewrites.

In early interviews, Ken Levine talks about the Vox as "starting as kind of a student movement, working to unionize workers, protect rights of minorities" and an "internationalist movement, a worker's movement". IIRC there's even some vestigial elements of that in the final game, like the red color scheme, and an audio log that unsubtly draws a parallel between the Vox and the khmer rouge, something about going after people with glasses/intellectuals (I might be missremembering this last one, since I couldn't find it by CTRL + F on a transcript).

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Came out during the height of "populism bad" being the lib mantra to say so I'm not surprised it got a bit of a rewrite when their name is vox pop.

    • macabrett
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      2 years ago

      I cannot for the life of me disassociate Bioshock Infinite from the Tea Party. Crazy to think how quickly the Tea Party sort of disappeared/rebranded in favor of MAGA/Q-Anon style shit.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The Tea Party cost too much. It was financed by oil executives and the Koch brothers to simulate a genuine grassroots movement, but was in practice campaign funding and propaganda. Various Tea Party organizations got investigated by the IRS in 2012, and that was enough to make the billionaires lose interest. They were getting diminishing returns anyway.

    • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I remember I used to think populism was inherently bad. That's obviously not true, but I've reached the conclusion that American populism is seemingly doomed to be bad

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The real step is realizing that "populism" isn't a thing, but an empty buzzword used to describe everything that isn't bloodless liberal managerial technocracy. It gets applied to everything from explicitly elitist ideologies like Fascism or even Monarchism, to tepid flavors of social democracy, to any and every form of leftist thought. It gets applied to both racism and civil rights activism, to both anti-war protesters and pro-war agitators (when they're using the "wrong" reasons, of course - cold and cynical justifications for war are obviously good and mature geopolitics), to both elitist theocracy that favors the entrenched privileged classes and to secular liberation movements that focus on the oppressed classes.

        It's completely and utterly without any meaning at all beyond saying that something is either to the right or left of a narrow band of right wing hegemonic liberal ideology.

        • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Well said. I more or less dropped it from my vocabulary when I noticed how loosely it would get throw around by ( everyone. Whatever the fuck could actually constitute "American populism", I don't want to see it

          • drtreats [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Imo populism is when the people overwhelmingly support something. It can be people, it can be wars, its that patriotic spirit that fell over everyone except the most educated of libs after 9/11.