At least he’s pretty based for someone in the niche of nerdy ass games. He said BLM during the 2020 protests and during the Palestinian protests in ‘21 he said Free Palestine, that US was backing an apartheid, and gave a bunch of resources to donate to Palestinians. Good guy and you should purchase his game because it’s pretty cool.

  • evilgritty [any]
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    2 years ago

    Is it worth it to buy the steam version over the lazy newb pack? 30 bucks is steep for me and I always tried to get into dwarf fortress but the learning curve was a bit steep for me. I love reading the stories that people wright about there fortress. I always want to get into these crazy open ended games but struggle to figure them out.

    • Abraxiel
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      2 years ago

      There are a lot of good beginner tutorials if you want to watch and see how it works. Kruggsmash is a really good youtuber who does roleplaythroughs with illustrations. I've never seen someone who clicked with the game so well and it might pique your interest to see some of the depth one can get from it.

    • Flinch [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I played DF for years with the LNP, it's probably the best way to get into DF sans steam, especially with the tilesets you get in the LNP. Plus the LNP comes with dwarf therapist, DFhack, other utilities I'm forgetting, and classic is getting all the same updates as the steam/itch version. I'd say absolutely go for it. YouTube is chock full of helpful tutorials, as well.

      Remember, your first forts WILL DIE. Often to stupid mistakes or things you didn't know could happen. but that's the fun in it all :pika-pickaxe:

      • Abraxiel
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        2 years ago

        haha, I remember the old tagline for dwarf therapist: "it makes dwarf fortress playable, it's that good!"

        • Flinch [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          its not wrong lmao playing DF with and without therapist is night and day

    • GucciMane [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It kind of depends, if you don’t mind the older UI, lack of tutorial, and keyboard controls you should try it with Lazy Newb Pack, but if the lack of those things are what’s keeping you from enjoying the game then probably should cop it on steam if it goes on sale.

      I’ve been playing DF on and off for about 4 years now and I still learn new stuff all the time lol. Imo the best way to learn is by making a series of concerted bursts of effort over a protracted period of time, that way knowledge builds up over time. Definitely don’t expect to learn everything right off the bat.

      Start off by just surviving for several seasons, with only basic industries going -> retire fort, make new one -> survive for a year while exploring new industries -> retire fort… -> survive for several years while exploring new industries and defending against sieges , work your way down to caverns -> retire fort…-> explore caverns and make it to lava levels -> retire fort…-> try playing in new biome, etc