• Beaver [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    "The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) is abusing RISC-V to get around U.S. dominance of the intellectual property needed to design chips"

    Malding so hard that China is using an open standard for it's intended purpose.

  • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Pretty reasonable comment section. This is just as stupid as the TikTok conversation. RISK-V could be a real game changer, something that is ultimately good for business, but the rabid Sinophobes of America would rather stab themselves in the gut than do any real competition.

    The entire computer stack is beholden to open standards. We'd be living in proprietary hell, and computers would be dog shit without them. Hexbear would only exist as a dial in BBS or Usenet instance.

  • blashork [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    Lmao clown shit. RISCV is good, but it would be really funny if China went all in on loongson just to make the US cope even harder.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I'd be curious to see a comparison between the two. Since RISC-V was designed with educational use in mind, I kinda worry about its long-term suitability and ability to compete with other standards.

      • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        I remember seeing what looked like a good faith criticism of RISC-V from a computer architecture engineer where she argued that a few details of the ISA weren't going to be as good for implementing extremely high performance designs as the way the latest ARM ISA did things. But I don't know to what degree that will hold RISC-V back or if it will be changed in some of the many permutations of the ISA as it is now being scaled up to high performance and probably soon extremely high performance. But last I heard, Longsoon chips had matched Intel's current CPUs in some IPC tests, though they don't clock very high and the tested chip was only 4c/8t so overall performance wasn't great. That's still far ahead of where RISC-V is right now in terms of desktop computing.

    • TeddyKila [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      I had thought that the latest longsoon chips were based off of a modified AMD design.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      I kinda hope that the killer clowns in charge of the US will force US companies to stop using RISC-V based architecture while the rest of the world moves on.

      • FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml
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        7 months ago

        Can't wait to see all the tech bros training their LLMs on superior western Tube- Intel/ARM-based computers while claiming that chinese RISC-V/LoongArch systems are worse because backdoors and communist spies.

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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      7 months ago

      I can't wait for term tankie to be expanded to now include ubuntu users.

  • Zvyozdochka [she/her, pup/pup's]
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    7 months ago

    Yea, good luck with that, go kick rocks. The Yanks are getting real scared of SMIC now, their first round of sanctions made China go from having decent semiconductor production capabilities to being able to compete with offerings from TSMC in like half a year and it will only keep getting better. America has sealed it's own fate, as is usual.

    xi-lib-tears

  • Maoo [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    lol this should backfire so hard.

    The only way to limit access to an open standard is to take it over and change the next version so it's now de facto proprietary. This is how ISO was corrupted when it came to docx. And this will mean nothing unless there's a ton of new processors out there using the new standard (let's call it RISC-VI) and it's so much better that anyone using RISC-V loses out.

    Realistically, all this can do is make China rush even harder to produce RISC-V chips and ensure the actual chips that exist are using the open standard.

    • huf [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      china should preemptively release RISC-VI (named after lenin of course).

    • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      This is how ISO was corrupted when it came to docx.

      Do you have any links to more info on this? Sounds interesting and I want to know more.

      • Maoo [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        This seems like an okay overview: https://brattahlid.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/is-docx-really-an-open-standard/

        Basically ODF was already a standard and perfectly sufficient to tweak for anything Word would ever need but Microsoft knew that they keep their monopoly secure, in part, by making other software fight to be compatible with Word documents. They also prefer to be in control of the entire ecosystem rather than implementing a shared standard. They proposed docx and other -x formats as their own open standard and were rejected until they more or less bought off ISO through donations and committee positions.

        Microsoft then proceeded to make their own proprietary tweaks anyways, making it still very difficult to support the docx format.

  • POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    Oh no, what will China do without a basic-ass instruction set that has less complexity than most 8-bit microcontroller archs???

  • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    China is not making relations easier, with a report yesterday finding that Chinese universities have been sidestepping sanctions on Nvidia GPUs.

    Lol