Good post by David Golumbia on ChatGPT and how miserable it all is :rat-salute-2:

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You're not a stochastic parrot. And claiming or believing you are reveals a deep fundamental ignorance of how language and cognition works. It also reveals a deep ideology; somehow human language, cognition, the ability to work with abstract symbols and semantic meaning, are all reducible to some statistically weighted math problems. Despite ai researchers who aren't techbros trying to sell you on madlibs ii; electric boogaloo telling everyone for years that modern ml models are not intelligent, do not think, and are not doing what human minds do. This is stem poisoning. Engineers, or really coders, who don't understand how anything works but believe they know everything because of pro-stem propaganda confidently spouting off about unknown unknowns.

    Very suddenly we've gone from "human like ai is decades off if it's even possible" to "this math problem that locates statistical correlations in a big .txt file is basically sentient, bro. Trust me, bro!"

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Okay so you're in the grip of unknown unknows. You don't know you're wrong because you're not sufficiently familiar with the material. Private meditation is not sufficient for understanding or discussing language, perception, cognition, or really anything. You're not "making things up". There are a variety of models but one that I favor suggests that your brain is made up of many non-conscious modules or agents that interact to produce higher level speech, utterances, behaviors, whatever. Your conscious self doesn't know what's going on down there but those modules are thinking and engaging in complex decision making. The same way that a person may have never heard of calculus but can perfectly map the trajectory of a thrown object in 3d space without being consciously aware of how they're doing it.

        They're handling the grammar, the vocabulary, cross referencing information in your memories, evaluating what is and isn't significant, and applying other processes that you don't need to be consciously aware of. You're probably aware from your meditative practice that things go a lot smoother when you're not acting consciously. You're confusing a lack of consciousness for a lack of complexity. The non-conscious parts of your brain, the parts that handle the majority of our cognitive functions, are very smart. They just don't report things to your conscious self unless high-level executive function is needed.

        Also, definitions; the unitary self is illusory. Sentience, the ability to feel and perceive, is not. It's a very important distinction.

        • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Also, definitions; the unitary self is illusory. Sentience, the ability to feel and perceive, is not. It’s a very important distinction.

          Sounds like this guy (mr meat bro) has been watching too many Sam Harris videos and thinks that he's some kind of mantra master observer or something 🤣