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  • That is important because it is considered vegetarian elsewhere but not exactly so in India so if you want to accurate in your research and not just provide clickbait headlines for the BBC, you will have to look into stuff and see what people actually mean when they say they are vegetarian or not.

    As I said, research like this is hard and you can choose to not trust the government if you wish, but then going by some US anthropologist quoted by the fucking BBC is completely bonkers.

    There was also an Indian economist in that study for what it's worth, which is why I thought it was at least somewhat credible. And like I said, based on other sources I've seen (you can find the references here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country#Estimates_and_Statistics) it's still below 50%, like I said. I was just curious.







  • Yeah but this is one of those sticky subjects because of cultural issues and the basically nonstop history of human cuisine being intertwined with meat eating. As far as I know, no society has ever been vegan. There have been pockets of vegetarianism but nothing all the way vegan. The only solution I see is some kind of lab grown meat/milk/eggs. Then maybe in the future people can go vegetarian or vegan if they choose.


  • Most of India has been vegetarian for thousands of years. If meat was “essential”, they’d be dead.

    I don't know about "thousands of years" as in Vedic India meat was definitely consumed and animal sacrifices were performed for religious ceremonies:

    In the time of the oldest Hindu sacred text, the Rig Veda (c. 1500 B.C.), cow meat was consumed. Like most cattle-breeding cultures, the Vedic Indians generally ate the castrated steers, but they would eat the female of the species during rituals or when welcoming a guest or a person of high status.

    Ancient ritual texts known as Brahmanas (c. 900 B.C.) and other texts that taught religious duty (dharma), from the third century B.C., say that a bull or cow should be killed to be eaten when a guest arrives.

    https://theconversation.com/hinduism-and-its-complicated-history-with-cows-and-people-who-eat-them-80586

    Even in modern day India the number of pure vegetarians doesn't constitute the majority:

    If you go by three large-scale government surveys, 23%-37% of Indians are estimated to be vegetarian. By itself this is nothing remarkably revelatory.

    But new research by US-based anthropologist Balmurli Natrajan and India-based economist Suraj Jacob, points to a heap of evidence that even these are inflated estimations because of "cultural and political pressures". So people under-report eating meat - particularly beef - and over-report eating vegetarian food.

    Taking all this into account, say the researchers, only about 20% of Indians are actually vegetarian - much lower than common claims and stereotypes suggest.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43581122







  • fratsarerats [none/use name]tonewsBiden Bux 10k
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    I remember when some on here were unironically doing the "you gotta hand it to him" for this BS that was obviously never gonna go anywhere from the start....


  • I mean in theory I'm not against this. Like it sucks when a 19 year old can bounce back from a sports injury after like 3 months when it would take almost a year (plus many more months of daily physical therapy) for someone a little older. It also sucks that they can eat like shit and drink like all night and then get up the next day with barely any hangover and do shit the next day. Or how young people don't need tons of lotion to keep their skin nice.

    I know ppl clown on the idea cuz it's always the rich and powerful silicon valley types that are into it, but sometimes biology just isn't fair. In some ways I consider it a form of discrimination: like why are some ppl tall and others short, why do some keep their hair and why do others lose it, etc. If there was a pill or injection (or series of pills/injections) that essentially "tricked" your genes into thinking they were always 25 (or 22, or whatever age) then it would be kinda nice. Not from a beauty standpoint but looking at overall health, since aging is also linked to things like cancer, heart disease, etc. I know it's cliche that "youth is wasted on the young," but it's kinda true. Like you have a much more sturdy body but not enough experience on how to best enjoy it.

    I can't help but think that a lot of leftist pushback on this is simply contrarianism or a (rightful) critique of capitalist inequality in terms of health. But imagine if Cuba or China came up with youth extension and/or age reversal technologies that were simple and safe? What would the opinion be then?


  • but Peter Singer

    The same Peter Singer that said that if you're elderly and have dementia you should euthanize them, yet when his own mother had Alzheimer's he spent money on her healthcare? Or the same Peter Singer that argued that it's pretty much ok to rape disabled people? Fuck Peter Singer, his whole philosophy is whack and he doesn't even stick to it himself.


  • Looking for fellow 30+ year old peasant (who in all likelihood has undiagnosed ADHD) for paired webdev/mobile learning.

    I know you're looking for someone to collaborate with, but just an FYI that if ^ this was an employment posting it would break age and disability discrimination laws. There's no reason that what you're looking for is someone over/under a certain age or with/without certain conditions. We've all legitimately criticized dating profiles that say "looking for white blonde female with no prior sexual partners, and age 18-23, etc. etc." so might wanna just keep that in mind next time comrade.