I want to state up first I get it, I'm on the right side, most of these men are awful, and every man-o-sphere influence is awful. Andrew Tate belongs in a 6 foot deep hole, or a hole in the back of his head. Joe Rogan should be sent to the Hague.

But when dudes complain, even about genuine issues, we have a tendency to just attack them for it. If a guy complains that being short can kinda suck (and it can. More so than just getting girls, it can hurt your career and everything.) People, even leftists, tend to just call them a sad manlet or something. Same thing with dudes complaining they can't get a girlfriend, are they not alienated under capitalism? I'm not saying we have to coddle the incels, but we could do better at presenting a future, a better one, maybe?

The discourse about height, and dick size, are both stupid but here (in this safe space) can I admit that there's a point to both? They affect people, it's a real thing.

And back to the Joe Rogan's, I feel bad that men and boys get sucked into that. I have some pity for them, these desperate losers.

Anyways, Im sure I'm going to think this is dumb, but I just can't help but feel like there's a gigantic community of extremely disaffected people that while I mostly loathe, I also really feel bad for. I don't think it would've taken much to push me there, I grew up in a good environment with some good role models, but without that, left to the wolves, I'm as susceptible to the grifters as everyone is.

  • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    2 years ago

    I'm not defending the guy, just surprised someone would say he deserves the Hague for promoting right-wing views, since that would include like 99% of influencers.

    And Joe Rogan himself being a multi billion dollar business owner who advertises products, is himself bourgeoisie

    Is there a term for someone with the relations of a petite bourgeoisie but capital greater than a good chunk of the bourgeoisie, like Kanye and Rogan?

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I’m not defending the guy, just surprised someone would say he deserves the Hague for promoting right-wing views, since that would include like 99% of influencers.

      In that case maybe there's something to examine about the fact that talking about men's issues in left spaces requires a disclaimer the size of a wall?