All this talk about “the liberal communists Bill Gates and George Soros” and how “the neoliberals are now more leninist than the Leninists” is getting increasingly :sus:

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    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      Read Capitalist realism and the section about market stalinism

      If you actually read it, it was never really defines what makes it especially “stalinist” it just explains how corporations are authoritarian

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        He basically just uses Stalinist to mean overly bureaucratic which he does roughly explain. The language he uses isn’t always great but I think it’s an overall insightful book but quite pessimistic though I think that’s fair given when it was written. I do think the “state of the left” has slightly changed since then but maybe that’s just terminally online brain

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          ok but that just normal corporation bureaucracy. I just feel like Fisher being a Br*t clouded his judgement on the authoritarianism of Capitalism since he probably grew up in a Soc-Dem Capitalist Nanny state. He just can't fathom how this same Capitalist State can show its teeth when the Labour rights movement died and neoliberalism can go full swing

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            British trots bring out "stalinist" in practically everything they write, they have never recovered from MI6 using them as a weapon of division against communism itself. As a result of intelligence interference the entire existence of being a Trot revolves around being anti-Stalin and they trot it out everywhere.

            It's really fucking boring once you realise it. They can't stop talking about it. Shut the fuck up and move on jeez.

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        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          Still i still fail to see how is not a persistent problem with bureaucracy than the perceived “stalinism”.

          You can literally said the same thing can happen in a capitalistic bureaucracy or a corporation bureaucracy with salaried employees.

          Tbh that section was always weak but the book is decent to pill the libs

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