All this talk about “the liberal communists Bill Gates and George Soros” and how “the neoliberals are now more leninist than the Leninists” is getting increasingly :sus:
All this talk about “the liberal communists Bill Gates and George Soros” and how “the neoliberals are now more leninist than the Leninists” is getting increasingly :sus:
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IMO it's two things:
Fairly universally disliked (or at least, made fun of). Not many people want to stick up for them.
They're known for being sectarian and I think that makes folks (I admit this includes me lol) feel justified.
I don't know if I condone it but I do try to get away with it!
This is basically my understanding. They've been weird and disruptive without contributing much for a century now so they're not really taken seriously most places.
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True, though I'm glad we're not really fair, ha. There are certain tendencies among the Western left that end up just being support for the American empire with extra steps and you really can't avoid at least implicitly crapping on them by calling out their ideas as such.
Anyways not really trying to justify it so much as take a stab at thinking about why it's (quietly) accepted.
in every thread i've ever seen bashing them, i haven't seen a single person say "hey, quit it, i'm a Trot!" many here will give Trotsky his due, but i've never seen anyone claim affinity with a Trot party or tendency. We even have some anprims here! It really gives one the impression that it's a total dead end.