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  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    What's plagiarism? Sounds like it involves some kind of :LIB: ownership concept that I'm not familiar with. How does one come to "own" an idea?

    • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      What’s plagiarism?

      George Orwell found innocent on all accounts, by the truest communists. I'm pretty sure the Soviets had a methodology for remembering who wrote what book, and ensuring credit.

      If not, I am the director of Solaris (1972). AMA and give me money.

        • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I welcome evidence of any successful leftist state project that did not give credit to authors, filmmakers, etc. Legitimately curious to see what that would look like.

              • leftofthat [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                you'd have to describe the difference, I could be. I'm talking about when someone thinks they own an idea and can control how others use that idea (for example, requiring that person to acknowledge the original author of the work). Sort of like being a landlord over that idea and renting it out. Sometimes for a fee, sometimes just for recognition. If that's not right then yeah I'm probably mistaken. I think it's wrong to take domain over an idea to the point where you would try and control how someone else uses it. Let it go. But I understand people who feel otherwise (in housing as well as in intellectual property).

                • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  So I'm strongly against copyright, IP, etc. I'm also not talking about vague ideas, but rather a specific combination of words someone put together in order to make a functional joke.

                  For the term plagiarism I am using this particular definition:

                  the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

                  I think there's benefit in knowing who wrote what specific book, what song, etc. I like following bands and authors, I like knowing whose work were influential and why, and I like knowing that my doctor didn't just copy the test notes from the guy next to him. In this sense the concept of plagiarism is important to me.

                  Your landlord example would be apt for my purposes. Just as people once just lived on land, posters here are simply vibing and entertaining, educating, and helping each other. Reposting, rephrasing a joke - great. :dead-dove-1: is my favorite example of this on the site.

                  The landlords here would be those who take those ideas and then exploit them for profit, resulting in a much higher standard of living than the original "author." These podcasts are all subject to copyright, branding, etc. The Chapo guys, strictly as an example, have stated they're against piracy of their "special" projects. That means the free things generated in leftist spaces are now part of that brand.

                  • leftofthat [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    I think there’s benefit in knowing who wrote what specific book, what song, etc

                    It's when you stop other people from acting in order to obtain this benefit that crosses the line for me. I think it's a great if you want to know the original author of a work, and I wish you could get that information in a way that didn't involve punishing folks for their behavior. But it doesn't seem to me like those things can be separated.

                    Stealing answers on a test isn't plagiarism it's cheating you should respect the difference if you're discussing in good faith.

                    Plagiarism is just stolen valor for nerds