Karl Marx famously predicted that the transition from capitalism to communism would first occur in an industrialized western european country like england or germany, instead it first occurred in russia which was one of the least industrialized european nations. While the russian revolution would not have been possible without the widespread support of the rural population the revolution in russia was directly a product of the cities.

It wasn’t until after the Second World War that we began seeing more communist nations form, most notably China which probably had the widest support from rural people from any communist country. And the rural centric approach proved to be very successful in other revolutions in the global south like Vietnam and Cuba. But let me say that the age of peasants leading the revolution is over.

In the 21st century the total percentage of rural people has decreased globally, in order to feed 8 billion people a consolidation of farmland is required and anyone with the ability to be a subsistence farmer owns land, or at least has some material advantage over an urban person.

While there are desperate and poor farmers in the global south who would still support communist ideals on land management a United States farmer will never hold those principles without there being some sort of cognitive dissonance between their class and personal beliefs.

Karl Marx’s assessment on where the revolution will happen was wrong, it frankly has less to do with how much a nation is industrialized but more with its relation with global capitalism in general. We are going to see a decline in peasants leading revolutions because there’s no more peasants.

let’s look at india, it has a very high agrarian economy, the majority of Indians work in agriculture, the government is practically ran by the agriculture industry. And despite flirting with communism, it isn’t communist. Generally land owners are pretty reactionary, I would assume this would disqualify any revolution in India from being led by farmers.

What made the revolutions viable previously in rural areas was that life was so shit and working in the city made life easier, that isn’t the case no more, a rural lifestyle is a luxury, it is a treat, the rural diaspora needs to be assimilated into the greater community in urban areas and all agriculture done through collectivized farming. We cannot expect another peasant revolution to happen because they did in the past.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Theyre living conditions are bad but there is nothing even close to a class consciousness there, I dont think ripe for revolution is how I would describe it. Maybe like, fascist takeover, they'll displace their issues onto minorities before they do anything else.

      • slugbait666 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Bullshit, have you ever actually been to WV? Sounds like you're just painting a whole group of people with a ridiculously broad brush in order to have everything fit into your little pet theory

        • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I changed my mind. Youre right, the peoples republic of South Carolina is going to free us.

          • mars [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I live in the South, and have for most of my life. Any attempt to paint this area as 'ripe for revolution' is about as coherent, based on my experience, as claiming stonewall Jackson was ripe for leading the people's vanguard party to form the Socialist Confederacy.

              • mars [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                I really would love to be wrong, the South is my home and I'd like to see some kind of movement take hold here. All my experience here, unfortunately, has taught me otherwise.

                • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Can't talk for the deep south but west Virginia still has a really strong union culture from all the miners. Everyone at the blue collar bar I used to hang out at were unequivocally pro union even though they were all maga chuds. Though if you got them talking they pretty much hate everyone in politics and every one who's rich.

                  I doubt we'll see a vanguard party suddenly spring from there but with education and the right messaging these rust belt states certainly aren't the irredeemable shit wholes some people here seem to think.