“Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
I'm an atheist now but I still live by some of the bangers Christ spit out on the right there, and I have nothing but disdain for "Christians" who ignore his teachings
I'm about as religious as the cows in the field, but I think leftists shouldn't fight with and alienate religious folks (like many AES regimes have done)
We have plenty of people to pick fights with: the bourgeoisie, the imperialists, their running-dogs, no point adding an extra enemy to the list.
Let's try and build a broad base open to strict materialists and the sort of great christian socialists you see in Latin America
I'm with you that there's often too much alienation of religious folk and maybe there's a better way.
Past and current socialist countries have had to contend with religious organizations not because of the beliefs they hold, but because of their organizational capacity. The Orthodox church for instance previously was a bureaucratic wing of the imperial Russian monarchy, responsible for things like the census and education. There are a bunch of Soviet posters focused on getting young women into schools, whereas previously they would have been made into nuns.
China similarly had to contend with the Catholic church as a vector of colonization and foreign money, which is why China still has no Vatican approved churches, but rather, there's an internal Chinese Catholic church administered by the state. Same thing in Cuba, the churches ran the schools, and that's simply not something a democratic society should have.
I think there's a trap where religious belief and religious organization are conflated as the same thing, when they aren't. Religious belief can't be grasped nor directed, I don't think it's possible to fully extinguish nor should it be. People are gonna find things to worship or find an afterlife to chase, that's normal and part of humanity. Big organizations with ties to state powers is where stuff starts to get confusing.
Some of them do. Some of them don't. "Religious" covers everything from evangelical psychos who are still salty about the end of slavery to liberation theology. In between that there is a large group of people who go to church a few times or less a year and say a prayer in times of great personal crisis but who otherwise doesn't think much about religion. I don't think they're any better or worse than non-religious people.
And it's not like non-believers are automatically receptive to Marxism. For instance I don't think Reddit atheist techbros are going to join a vanguard party any day soon.
I mean, it's hard not to despise christians when everyone trying to render my existence illegal is doing it in the name of their christ.
Everything about the Bible is literal except the part where rich people are considered subhuman and go to hell
"if they sue you for your coat, give them your cloak as well"? what does that mean?
Give up your possessions, battling for possessions isn't important.
If you're asking about physical garments a cloak is like a long cape that you would have worn over your coat to keep the rain off and help with the wind.
This is a perversion. The left wants to ban the word of Christ and throw believers in prison
GodsAssassin: but LORD, didn’t I pretend on the internet that I’d killed people in Your name? God: Depart from me, I never knew you.
I appreciate you setting your pronouns on here bro, ty for real
When we want something we say it. If we were afraid of saying what we want we wouldn't advocate openly for the powerful men of our time to be made low and the weak to be made high
which is also notably what Jesus called for
jesus is like the most uncomplicated part of the bible like objectively it is hard to dislike the guy, i actually studied in a catholic school and stuff and like he was the coolest part of the bible, a man who simply refused to accept things couldn't be better, he refused, he went to sick and downtroden and loved them, he literally died for all of our sins, and died still asking for us to be forgiven, so do you think he wouldn't like us? i feel like we could hang
These attempts to rehabilitate the image of the Christian God, either with the psychedelia-adjacent fractal wing deity, or this wealth punishing lefty God, are fine, but come on. Your imagination can do better. Make some new stuff, get wild with it.
Our lives are run by car deaths and service jobs and shit. Make some deities out of that stuff instead of clinging to the no-fun-allowing Patriarch Prime.
edit: realized this is in the Christianity comm. No disrespect intended
whats with the relentless religious posting the past few days
I always suspect people who aren't Christians telling Christians how to be Christians
