I was debating with a lib who argued that Lenin was a murderer and kept talking about how 200,000 people died in the Red Terror. I responded by saying you could say the same thing about the founding fathers, after all, all those civilians wouldn't have died if some rich landowners just payed their taxes.

Anyway, how do you guys respond to liberals when they shit their pants about stuff like this?

    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I have said to people I know that yeah, the Terror was problematic but overall Stalin "killed" less people than LBJ or Eisenhower, just to name two off the top off my head. At that point people just get incredulous and don't want to talk about it anymore.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The advanced lib response to this is to say “that is neither here nor there” or “whataboutism.”

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        whataboutism as if you can criticise any system in a way other than in comparison. When liberals criticise communism they implicitly are saying capitalism is better

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      You left out the starvation of Afghanistan, which he has total authority to stop, even now. 1 million children projected to starve because he decided to give the $8 billion to the 9/11 families (THEY WERE FUCKING FINANCE WORKERS; THEIR FAMILIES WERE NOT AND ARE NOT FUCKING POOR).

      • shimmer [undecided]
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        2 years ago

        Holy shit let's go brandon. Fucking absolute monster and the way libs will defend his every breath is sickening to me.

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      don't forget to count unborn children under Biden's regime. I don't mean abortion, but add those, too.