• D61 [any]
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    6 months ago

    As reported by Huawei Central, the new Qingyun W515x is equipped with China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz.

    squidward-chill

    While the CPU specs remain a secret, the CPU cooler is a low-profile unit that reportedly maintains a chassis temperature below 30C at maximum load. The fan noise level is also quiet, coming in at 21.82 dB.

    squidward-nochill

    • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Sounds impressive but this should really be the baseline for non enthusiast CPU temps and power draw if x86 processors weren't so inefficient.

      • Teapot [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        30 C (86 F) should be baseline at load? Lol. This thing is severely underclocked if that is the temp at load. Laptop processors basically run at 90 C

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          6 months ago

          But should they run at 90c? They certainly don't have to, and it would sure be nice to just use much more efficient chips that don't produce all that waste heat and burn through power.

          • BobDole [none/use name]
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            6 months ago

            Then imagine how cool they could get if software devs actually cared about efficiency

            • D61 [any]
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              6 months ago

              RETVRN TO TRADITION: When ram was measured in KB and video game had to load and run off of a floppy disk.

        • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Oh I didn't read the at load part. It's perfectly reasonable at idle and low load applications.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      below 30C at maximum load

      Yeah right. I'll believe it when I see it tested independently.

      Genuinely seems farfetched.

      • Vivendi@lemmy.zip
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        6 months ago

        Or it's just shitty small cores? Even China's best core designes are 10 years behind, even tho they have great tech in some small aspects like their branch prediction system

        Source: Chips and Cheese, a hardware engineering analysis website

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          6 months ago

          10 years behind

          lol you are absolutely taking the piss if you think these are only comparable to Haswell. Orientalist bias is pouring off of this statement from your 9 day old account with an entire 2 comments ever made. The Chinese brainpan just can't possibly compete!

          • fuckiforgotmypasswor [comrade/them,any]
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            6 months ago

            maybe-later-honey China is stealing tech patents and its not fair, also their tech is 10 years behind, also they live in a dystopian tech-ruled surveillance state, also their economy is about to collapse, also they are single-handedly destabilizing US hegemony

              • sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml
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                6 months ago

                I replied to you with this account.

                I would also like to note that the FIRST comment I made with that acc was in defense of China. EDIT: I deleted it actually but I was defending against the Xinjiang bullshit

                • Awoo [she/her]
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                  6 months ago

                  10 years is still absolutely ridiculous and you should feel silly for having said that. At most they're 1 generation behind. Comparing them to Haswell? HASWELL? Really?

                  I think you know this was silly and why it provoked a reaction from me.

                  • sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml
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                    6 months ago

                    Haswell is actually not an ancient core, lot's of the tech used in Haswell is still relevant today. Fuck, it took RiscV years until they had anything comparable to Haswell's SIMD.

          • sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml
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            6 months ago

            Their core designs are more or less way behind, because they needed to learn and create lots of infrastructure technology. Read the Chips and Cheese article on the latest Loongson cores, even tho they have impressive technology in some aspects, the core design is way behind AMD or even Intel.

            Zhaoxin is also a bad joke.

            Kirin in particular is ARM based and they at least have access to ARM core designs, so it's a surely better situation than fully domestic projects. But still, more single core performance is incredibly hard to achieve, and don't be surprised to learn that these CPUs are only capable of simple tasks.

            I'm an Iranian computer engineer and a ProleWiki contributor. I'm not coming from a place of malice, I'm stating the facts of the matter on Chinese technology.

    • imikoy [she/her, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      x86 is bad with power efficiency, ARM is much better. Some ARM Apple laptops don't have a cooler, even.

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    5nm technology is the best manufacturing process China currently has access to. Since U.S. regulations have banned China's access to the latest generation of chipmaking tools, China's chipmaking facilities have to deal with the restrictions of older shipbuilding tools that aren't necessarily capable of building the latest-generation tech, like extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV). It has limited China's ability to develop competitive CPUs with Intel, AMD, Apple, and Qualcomm's latest chips.

    I didn't know ships were used in microprocessors!

  • RION [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    Can't wait to see this post locked on r/hardware

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
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    6 months ago

    I wanna know what ISA it uses. I wanna be able to install Linux on modernish hardware without having the management engine and its equivalents hardwired in.

    • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      6 months ago

      Kirin 9000 series have been ARMv8

      Show

      there are other companies also working on risk5 and a new isa loongarch that is getting support rolled out

  • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    6 months ago

    A new system with a slow China-made processor

    thanks for the adjective, tomshardware.com

    China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz

    The Kirin 9000C is an octa-core CPU with 12 threads and a 2.48 GHz frequency

    🤔

    (might just be top vs. default clock speed but whatever, 0/10 for ambiguous writing)