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  • opsecisgay [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    This is why I assume you and every other white vegan I meet is fucking racist.

    You can't imagine people having genuine racial grievances with how you handle yourself and talk to people. White queer spaces have glaringly obvious racial issues but vegan spaces?

    An goal that literally requires educating and yes, socially policing other people's behavior hasn't inherited centuries of racism and colonialism.

    You hear it a lot because it's a real fucking problem regardless of whether it's taken in bad faith by people who don't give a shit or if people don't know how to articulate it.

      • opsecisgay [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Queer spaces usually are racist and it's extremely isolating and well documented

        I am queer and yes it sucks that a lot of POC spaces are often also anti-queer

        I prefer dealing with somewhat homophobic POC people because at least they can't be racist (in the same way) and weird and chauvinistic (especially paternalistic) towards me. They can be the same kind of passively hostile that I have to deal with every day.

        If you are a POC in a queer space (almost always white dominated) you can either be a pet that has to behave or be ostracized. You can imagine the kind of disgusting liberal condescension and lecturing when you're a queer POC communist in a white queer space. I would rather deal with the feeling of being an outcast than being an outcast among outcasts.

        Outcasts take all more abuse out on you because they've received more abuse and think you are stepping out of line.

        Yes by default it's safer to assume that queer spaces will be pretty explicitly racist unless they are specifically spaces for poc.

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        White queer people are very often more racist than PoC cishets are homophobic.

        I give a wide berth to white queer spaces for this reason because im tired of having to explain to white people that speaking to me in broken spanish, assuming offensive stereotypes about me or asking me if im uncut unprompted is super fucking racist.

        In the same way that white vegans often disparage and demean PoC and especially indigenous cuisine as “savagery” as some supposed leftists categorize it and advocate a form of cultural cleansing in order to enforce their ideal of veganism.

        Its chauvinistic paternalistic racism and people allow their frankly dogmatic clinging to veganism eclipse their decency to people who could otherwise be receptive to veganism if they could hold off on being racist as hell.

        Its why PoC vegan communities often exclude and close off from White Vegans. They are vegan in spite of white vegans performing hostility to others, not because of.