N.B. misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed (uninternalize your reddit MRA today: men suffer some drawbacks under the patriarchy but ultimately still maintain it due to the large amount of privileges they receive under it!)

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Any oppressor-oppressed relationship inherently limits the human condition, but the oppressor always has more to lose than to gain. Feminism is good for men as humans as they will be able to wear whatever they want and have whatever sort of relationships they want with whoever. But it also means giving up higher wages, rape, etc. so it's no wonder a lot (not all) of men don't see feminism as a net benefit to themselves.

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I would argue that it's quite reductive to suggest that having 'higher wages" is more to lose than being able to have "whatever sort of relationship they want".

      I think it's accurate to say that men tend to perceive themselves as having more to lose than gain under feminist liberation...but i would argue that perception itself is based on falsehoods steming from patriarchy.

    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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      5 months ago

      But it also means giving up higher wages

      lol who's getting high wages?

      any economic damage to "men" would be far outweighed by the gains we all make under socialism outside of a small handful of people everyone on this website would kill if we could.

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Do you really not know about the wage gap? Women make less money than men.

        And yes, I explicitly said #notallmen because communist men are smart enough to know socialism would be more economically advantageous anyway, and they're also much less likely to be rapists.

        • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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          5 months ago

          yeah, and it's worse if you're not white.

          if we do wage equality and socialism at the same time, "men" will all be better off just on the money number too.