• constellation [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    No, they're an integral part of the language. It's just that textbooks don't seem to mention it, and that reflects the poor state of pedagogy in Japanese learning. I'm convinced the people who write textbooks don't want anyone to learn, because more people speaking Japanese would diminish their own accomplishments and make them feel less special.

    • booty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I had no idea, that's interesting. Where could I read more about this?

      • constellation [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I quit studying Japanese long ago in favor of Chinese. Tones are definitely there, though. Heck English has tones.

        • booty [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          English just has one tone that's grammatically meaningful though, and even then you can do without it through context.

            • booty [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              No they don't. There are at most two meanings between these 4 things, and both of those meanings could be extracted from context by a person speaking in a monotone.

              • constellation [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                All I have to say is that we have very different views of what tones mean in speech. Having studied tonal languages, I'm sticking with my view.

                • booty [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  What a lame response. Why even comment? "I've decided you're wrong and I know more than you, but of course I can't articulate why." Did I accidentally log into reddit today?