Super interesting article.

  • constellation [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    America was a trust-based society for a long time. Well, in some parts, anyway. I can remember appealing to total strangers for aid and receiving it with a smile. Also having strangers come up to me and I'd help them out.

    I suppose I didn't grow up in the urban area of a big city, which helped. I'd always see these movies based in New York where people were assholes to each other, and I just couldn't figure out why those people would be so mean. Doesn't it make you feel good inside to help people?

    • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      the closer you are to a sucking whirlwind of human misery, the harder it is to stay open like that. when you're just trying to get somewhere and people come up to you multiple times per block trying to sell you something, scam you, or beg for help it is terrible and exhausting. this is why cities like New York normalize a default reaction of "fuck you, get out of my face."

      • constellation [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Houston is the 4th largest city in the US, and there were no scammers and beggars on every block. Honestly that sounds like homeless-blaming.

        • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Houston isn't dense, it's not the same kind of place at all

          like put the whole population inside the loop and then let's see what kind of exciting social pathologies develop

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        when you’re just trying to get somewhere and people come up to you multiple times per block trying to sell you something, scam you, or beg for help it is terrible and exhausting

        No wonder "the metaverse" is so dead on arrival. It's exactly that, on purpose. :agony-minion:

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I think it has to do with population density. Living in a city of millions gives a sense of anonymity. Even if you've lived there for decades, you step outside and it's a sea of strangers.

      In smaller towns or suburbs, people know each other. If someone scams you, word will get around. That makes it much easier to trust others, because there is more communal accountability.

      The US has very low population density, more suburbs and small towns while China is full of mega cities. I can see why the average Chinese person is more distrustful than the average American.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        And yet this doesn't match up at all with the World Values Survey posted above.

        What makes far more sense to me is that people become more or less trusting based on their perception of threat to themselves. In China, where things have generally gotten better over the last couple generations, trust is up - but in America, where things have generally gotten worse over the same period, trust is down.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        suburbs, people know each other

        Not really. Unless they disapprove of your lawn. :grillman:

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I've always been told people on the east coast are assholes. A friend said when he visited a coastal town in California it was like being in a Disney movie.