I think that most people ultimately can't change until they're either forced to change or hit rock bottom.
I'm living proof that people can change in the sense that its theoretically possible. But I hit rock bottom 3-4 times and was given a sobering "You won't live another 5 years if you continue like this." Even then, I only made serious progress after 3-4 LSD trips. But for everyone like me there's 9 more people who fall through despite getting the same warnings. For everyone that keeps the change up long term, there's 9 more who return to their old pattern of behavior.
I don't think major self-improvement is comparable to learning a skill. If you were the kind of person who could change themselves then you would already have done so. It's closer to changing the very core of your soul and becoming a completely different person. I look back at the person I was and realize I probably did die. Whatever was left in my body became who I am today because I can't identify with who I was before now.
Hate to break it to you bud but some people are responsible for the problems they have in life.
Some people have shitty circumstances and put forth effort to overcome them. Some people have a hiccup and use it as an excuse to beat themselves down and the people around them. An alcoholic that beats their kids may have had a shitty life but we don't pull the "society needs to change" card for them.
we don’t need to improve
No, everyone should be improving. That's the point of life if there ever was one. You get sucker-punched, you fall, try to get up, you fail, you slide backwards for months on ends, but you still try to improve.
society needs to change
For things like ASD and ADHD this is true but ultimately meaningless because it implies that society can change without individuals doing something. Workers get fucked over by their bosses and that needs to change. We don't sit around waiting for some magical force to intervene, we unionize and organize. Do you think that one day NT folk will suddenly change and understand us? Or are you content to accept that we'll be misunderstood for all of human history?
It's fine if you do think so. I'm not here to impose my will. But we live in the world we do for better or worse. Cope with it, fight against it, or resign yourself to it. But ultimately you do make a choice.
I think that most people ultimately can't change until they're either forced to change or hit rock bottom.
I'm living proof that people can change in the sense that its theoretically possible. But I hit rock bottom 3-4 times and was given a sobering "You won't live another 5 years if you continue like this." Even then, I only made serious progress after 3-4 LSD trips. But for everyone like me there's 9 more people who fall through despite getting the same warnings. For everyone that keeps the change up long term, there's 9 more who return to their old pattern of behavior.
I don't think major self-improvement is comparable to learning a skill. If you were the kind of person who could change themselves then you would already have done so. It's closer to changing the very core of your soul and becoming a completely different person. I look back at the person I was and realize I probably did die. Whatever was left in my body became who I am today because I can't identify with who I was before now.
we don't need to improve (outside of like, specific skill development) , society needs to change
Hate to break it to you bud but some people are responsible for the problems they have in life.
Some people have shitty circumstances and put forth effort to overcome them. Some people have a hiccup and use it as an excuse to beat themselves down and the people around them. An alcoholic that beats their kids may have had a shitty life but we don't pull the "society needs to change" card for them.
No, everyone should be improving. That's the point of life if there ever was one. You get sucker-punched, you fall, try to get up, you fail, you slide backwards for months on ends, but you still try to improve.
For things like ASD and ADHD this is true but ultimately meaningless because it implies that society can change without individuals doing something. Workers get fucked over by their bosses and that needs to change. We don't sit around waiting for some magical force to intervene, we unionize and organize. Do you think that one day NT folk will suddenly change and understand us? Or are you content to accept that we'll be misunderstood for all of human history?
It's fine if you do think so. I'm not here to impose my will. But we live in the world we do for better or worse. Cope with it, fight against it, or resign yourself to it. But ultimately you do make a choice.
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fuck you, you don't know me or my situation. I'm certainly not a group of workers that has leverage and just need to apply it.
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