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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    it did report on the UN claiming it was

    "The UN" made no such claim, a commitee within the UN headed by a Brit made the claim, but the UN in general did not even nominally sign on to it.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        You'll notice I don't remember the committee's name either, and yet that didn't lead me to parrot the wildly distorted characterization that "the UN" said such-and-such like I was reading off of a Yahoo News article.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            You remember that interaction better than I do.

            Don't worry, even if I never saw the username I would have responded the same way, because my contempt is for what you are saying now, not whatever it was that you said before.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I am saying that you are being uncritical of the reporting as though all the past bullshit reports taught you nothing. Yes, if HRW was known to be giving us the best representation of what happened, that would reflect a very serious problem. We do not know that they are.

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    I haven't even read the whole thing yet. What I am saying is that we shouldn't simply accept its characterizations uncritically. Is media criticism such a wild idea?

                      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        You're just assuming bias because it's more convenient for you. When something makes strong claims, you must hold it to high standards.

                        Even if you were right and I only exercise basic media literacy for sources critical of China, that would not make my criticisms of those sources incorrect. It would make my defense of other sources incorrect.

                        You are literally arguing that we shouldn't criticize something that could plainly be atrocity propaganda because maybe we don't criticize if Für Elise is replicating German chauvinism. It's a joke of an argument.

                          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                            2 years ago

                            Again you are begging the question wrt the accuracy of the report. Furthermore, what you actually said was:

                            Okay then do that for every single piece of media about anything, I think you only want to do it for things that you disagree with though

                            Emphasis:

                            do that for every single piece of media about anything

                            You are free to disavow this argument, but it's the one you made.