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Series Finale. Trapped inside a mysterious alien portal that defies familiar rules of time, space, and gravity, Captain Burnham must fight Moll – and the environment itself – in order to locate the Progenitors’ technology and secure it for the Federation. Meanwhile, Book puts himself in harm’s way to help Burnham survive and Rayner leads the U.S.S. Discovery in an epic winner-takes-all battle against Breen forces.

Written by: Kyle Jarrow & Michelle Paradise

Directed by: Olatunde Osunsanmi

  • HobbesHK@startrek.website
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    6 months ago

    As a show with so much promise, I often felt Disco reached for big concepts but never quite managed to get there. It would get bogged down with pathos and dragged out plot lines. Unfortunately, season 5 felt no different. This episode dragged on and on for me. Mol and L’ak had mostly become irrelevant and were completely unnecessary in this episode.

    I get the series got axed and additional scenes were shot to round things out. But that random “we’re all hugging” scene? It was weird. And didn’t the actress who played Detmer say their absence was planned and revealing anything would be a big spoiler or something? Well. No, it really wasn’t.

    Kovitsch was Daniels? I think at that point of the story, he could’ve been anyone and it wouldn’t have landed. He could’ve been Sloane (not dead after all!) and it would’ve made as much sense and be just as meaningful to the story.

    The progenitor plot? With a tick list of “clues” and “challenges” to lead the way, but ultimately we decide your worthiness to reshape the universe as we know it with a geometry puzzle? I can’t even.

    Discovery had potential, back in the day, but disappointed year on year. I had hoped this final season would offer redemption, but alas. Decent bunch of actors, but with subpar writing that usually went nowhere coherent. I won’t miss it. Glad it’s done. I hope Paramount learnt some valuable lessons from this and moves things on.

  • skfsh@startrek.website
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    6 months ago

    I had placed a huge bet on Owo and Detmer warping the ISS Enterprise in at the last minute to save everyone's bacon, and now I'm homeless

  • minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 months ago

    Discovery has always been a mixed bag for me.

    I was fine with their changes to the Klingons, but disliked the emphasis of action.

    I liked Pike and Spock (an Strange new Worlds), bit disliked the final battle with a million ships/drones.

    I liked the jump into the future, but disliked the reason and resolution of the Burn.

    I liked the threat of the DMA and its consequences, but the interpersonal relationships of the crew lost their appeal to me.

    Season 5 was one of the weakest for me.

    The Breen and the new XO two positives for me.

    The crew, the Progenitor Tech and the search for it were all boring for me. Especially the established characters are more annoying than interesting to me.

    Mol and L'ak ruined the season for me, more specifically Mol. A cross between a tantrum-having toddler and rebellious teenager, she added nothing to the plot. Her random connection to Book was blatantly manufactured and added nothing.

    I actively had to stop myself from skipping scenes with her. I was close to just stop watching this season, since the rest wasn't too compelling either. I really dislike when antagonist keep sticking around, because the heroes try saving them (from themselves). It's okay to let a horrible person bleed to death, Michael.

    I'm glad it's over. It could have been better, but also worse. I think this season showed it was a good decision to end it now.

  • Value Subtracted@startrek.website
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    6 months ago

    As far as season finales go, I think this was their best one to date. The action was split pretty nicely between the chaotic events on the bridge, Saru's mission, and Burnham and Moll inside the portal. I thought the thoroughline of the clues left by the science team came together quite nicely, as well - there was a good amount of emphasis on how concerned the scientists had been about exactly who was going to find this thing. Burnham's ultimate decision to chuck the whole thing into the black hole caught me by surprise, but seemed pretty well-reasoned.

    As far as series finale's go...I think they did pretty well with what they had. The several-decade time jump often works really well to cause some self-reflection, and it was nice to see an Admiral Burnham who was so settled down. And hey, we got our "Calypso" tie-in that managed to answer very few questions, but at least they closed that circle.

    It really does feel like the end of an era. This show kickstarted the barrage of Trek we've (hopefully, mostly) enjoyed over these past few years. Of all the series that have followed it, Discovery has consistently been the one I've looked forward to watching the most, as it's been the most willing to surprise and challenge me along the way. It's been, as they say, a long road.

  • Stormygeddon@startrek.website
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    6 months ago

    Those red leaved trees are known to produce a lot of sap. Watch out as it can stick to you.

    Anyway, I expected more of a "Be careful what you wish for" resolution with L'ak, but they just told Mol what would happen instead of actually doing it / creating a copy with no memories. I was disappointed with that.

    I'm also kind of disappointed that Vulcans are so often seen kissing instead of doing the finger thing.

    • Value Subtracted@startrek.website
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      6 months ago

      It would have been interesting to see Walking Dead L'ak, but it was also kind of nice to see Moll accept the situation and start to trust Burnham.

  • dethstrobe@startrek.website
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    6 months ago

    That was an ending alright. I feel like the epilogue was nice, with no killing of a main character for no reason (looking at you ENT) and everyone got a pretty happy ending. And Calypso at least is canon, but it'd have been nice to have more context on what the end game is.

    But my problem is that the emotional pay off just doesn't feel deserved. I really just don't feel connected with the characters and crew enough. I really feel like more episodes (or a lot more) to really flesh things out would have helped a lot.

    But you know what I think I might actually like. A movie. I feel like tightening up the epic galaxy ending plot in a 90 to 120 minute feature film would feel better then a 10 ep season. I doubt we'll get one, but it'd be nice to see what kind of nonsense Burnham gets in to since they end it on a pseudo cliff hanger (as is DISCO tradition).

    But what was up with Detmer and Owo being side lined for the second half of the season. I was expecting some kind of pay off for that, but nothing... It seemed unnecessary.

    • Value Subtracted@startrek.website
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      6 months ago

      It looks like they're doing a better job of retaining props from shows once they've wrapped, so maybe there's a chance they'll put the sets in storage in case they decide to use them again - either in a movie (the rumour is/was that they want to do a streaming movie every two years), or for the occasional guest appearance on the Academy show.

      But what was up with Detmer and Owo being side lined for the second half of the season.

      Michelle Paradise said yesterday that both actors were unavailable during filming, having booked other projects.

      • dethstrobe@startrek.website
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        6 months ago

        Nice to know the rumor mill has a possible streaming movie in the works.

        And it makes sense that Detmer and Owo had external factors causing them to not play a big role. Disappointing still, but reasonable.