Should we stop supporting them with our eyes for taking sponsorships from shady companies?

Edit: I took my first step and unsubscribed from the channel and I will continue to withhold my viewership to those that don’t take better care of the viewers.

Likely doesn’t matter, but I’m on a roll of not giving my money to companies that are immoral so why not do the same with my eyes.

    • Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Funnily enough the person that made this video had a little controversy on the vape-o-nomics video when he was talking about how subscription services were bad but then immediately pivoted towards an ad read for a subscription service.

      Eventually it was removed (without a comment talking about, it happened silently) but still this stuff reaches everyone eventually.

      Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

    • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      His video with one of those "genetic research" companies was very bad anti-privacy propaganda, where they used the excuse of catching the Golden State Killer as justification for storing and using the related genetic information of masses of unconsenting individuals.

      He's also dipped several times into making state department propaganda like Smarter Every Day consistently does. Not nearly quite as bad as him yet though.

      And he's made several videos about failures of capitalism, wherein he very obviously refuses to identify it as the problem. Like the one about planned obsolescence or leaded gasoline and another I'm forgetting.

      • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        On the electricity video, he was actually correct. It was mostly a matter of semantics and people clinging to the common models of electricity.

  • RedWizard [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Am I just old, even by internet standards? Because we've been here before. Better Help was blasted on the internet several years ago for their shady business practices. Several major YouTubers published "make good" videos about it, because of how bad the service was. Better Help was giving YouTubers and podcasters a shitload of money to promote their product, and in their terms they explicitly stated that they did not verify the credentials of their "therapists" and that it was on you to do that.

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    6 months ago

    Wow, those comments are a dumpster fire.

    Not sure what Derek 's best response might be. I'm thinking that this video will likely be taken down and replaced by one without a sponsor.

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    6 months ago

    I watch basically any channel with 100,000+ subscribers through Piped so that my views or retention or engagement don't get counted by YouTube.

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I do that kind of thing, yes. Although I usually find it so distasteful, that I lose interest in watching other videos anyways.

    But yeah, especially when it's a channel making educational content, there's a chance that some viewers take the sponsored section as general educational content (no matter, whether that's because they're gullible, young or did not pay attention when the sponsor segway happened).

    There's also various tech channels which recommend products that are objectively worse than the alternatives, or even exert malware-like behaviour. Those also immediately lose any and all respect from me.

    Obviously, if it was a genuinely good product, it wouldn't need the sponsorship deal for people to make videos about it. So, I do understand the struggle.
    But everyone wanting to make a living off of media has that struggle. If I artificially inflate the view numbers of one media creator, the others receive less sponsorship money.

  • SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    I'm curious, what would happen if I, as a creator, had been contacted by a sponsor and then if the sponsor was shady, decided to not only say no to the contract, but also rag on them in the video where the sponsor would have been shilled?

  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Slightly relevant, install firefox and sponsorblock (works on mobile)

  • R...@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    To some degree, certainly! If at some point it comes out that a certain sponsor is just total shit, a content creator can be made aware of that. Although, with all these things, it is not always as easy to just drop a sponsor i suppose, there is always contracts involved and all of that. So not expecting a creator to be able to drop a sponsor all of a sudden.

  • SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    At least consider it. It will make shady sponsors less valuable and more genuine sponsors more valuable.

    They absolutely deserve to be blasted in the comments for a bad sponsor. It will make people reconsider their viewing decisions. If the video itself also wasn't great, don't be afraid to give it a big fat dislike, especially if you have the return YouTube dislike extension.

    Additionally, if there are too many ads and sponsors, make your voice heard in the comments, and the creator might be sympathetic. I certainly am when I'm on the receiving end of a comment like that on my channel.

  • Hurculina Drubman@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Mark Rober was a big disappointment too. he made a pretty weird video about autism, using the fact that his son is autistic as like qualification for him to talk about it. autistic folks tried to talk to him about the problematic nature of the video in the comments, and he just blocked them. plus, he partnered with NXT for Autism, which does work with Autism Speaks, which is genuinely a hate group that's trying to exterminate autism, and, last I checked, had no autistic people on the board.

  • Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Dr becky (atrology channel) also did a few sponsorships with them and got lots of unhappy comments under those videos. Not sure if she still sticks with them or no. Aaaaaaaand I just checked her last video from 7 hours ago and she still gets sponsorships from them. Top comments are asking her to stop accepting those sponsorships pointing out their doings.

  • AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    A channel absolutely should be held accountable for the sponsors they accept. Advertisements from YouTube are mostly outside channel owners control, but sponsors are not.

    I don't support channels with unethical sponsors. It can be tough sometimes.