this is vaguely related to the string theory related post from a day or two ago, it's all bazinga science folks TL;DW string theory is a big thing because people that read pop science really liked it and it took a long time for physicists to come out in force and say "this is untestable garbage"

  • serveranim [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Or how about Dan Harman, the other co-creator of "Rick and Morty," who filmed himself

    CW: yuk

    spoiler

    r*ping a babydoll.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I didn't even know that yet but at this point pretty much anything new that I hear about the owners of the Rick and Morty franchise is sure to be full of "ironic" :awooga: :libertarian-alert: :hypersus: cravings from one of two deeply privileged worker-hating rich white assholes.

      • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        And Dan Harmon is the good one. He did a big project of apologizing for having being am alcoholic racist serial abuser that got to the top in Hollywood. He seems to be genuinely repentant and trying to do as much good as he can without risking his position on top of the pile. Which is insufficient, but way more than anyone else in his position has tried so it is weird to see.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          If only he stopped being a piece of shit to his employees and stopped preaching about how he bootstrapped himself to greatness and anyone poor is just lazy, as he preached on "HarmonTown." :disgost:

          • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It is possible he has, I wouldn't know. I don't think it would really change anything if he did though.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I don’t think it would really change anything if he did though.

              It would improve the material conditions of his workers enough for that to matter to them. Was that not obvious to you? :what-the-hell:

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  I don’t think it would really change anything if he did though.

                  That wasn't my question.

                  I was addressing this claim:

                  I don’t think it would really change anything if he did though.

                  If he stopped mistreating his workers, you apparently claimed, that wouldn't really change anything.

                  Either you didn't mean to say that and I misread you, or you may have internalized a bit too much of the pop nihilistic propaganda of the show.

                  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    I don't think he could make those changes is what I am saying. I am saying of him personally. You are correct in an ideal case. However, hypocrisy is an option in real life.

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      I don’t think he could make those changes is what I am saying.

                      I call a big steaming pile of bullshit there.

                      You've already made a claim that rich powerful white men are above consequence. If he cared enough, he could pay his workers better, maybe even let them unionize, and escape consequences with such privilege. It wouldn't likely take that much except maybe a reputation hit with his fellow rich white asshole associates.

                      You are correct in an ideal case.

                      Call me an idealist if you will, but I in turn urge you to consider what an ideological dead end it is to internalize the defeatism and nihilism in the entertainment you're apparently making excuses for here to the point of leaving apparently no room for even the possibility or potential of positive leftist movements in the future.

                      At some point in the past, the Czars seemed untouchable. And before them, the Sun Kings. Plenty of entertainment implied the same for them, and consumers of that entertainment nodded along to Divine Command Theory and other defeatist bullshit messages of the time too.

                      I'll offer some words of wisdom from a vastly superior fiction writer than Roiland or Harmon:

                      https://www.azquotes.com/quote/867757

                      • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                        1 year ago

                        I agree with you completely. He could simply do better. We are speculating on odds. Of which I am not as optimistic as you.

                        If I was in a position to try to talk the man into a more just course of action it might matter, but in these particulars it does not

                        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                          1 year ago

                          "I don't think he could make those changes" is not the same claim as "he would not likely make those changes."

                          The ability to do so is not the same thing as the likelihood that he would use that ability.

                          This defeatism/fatalism is exhausting. I sincerely worry you may have internalized way too much of the messaging of the show you're making excuses for here.