Granted, the hardliners did want to fight to the last man, woman, and child; and had the Soviets maintained their neutrality then the hardliners most likely would have succeeded in pushing Hirohito or couping him so that they could abandon Manchuria and attempt to bleed the Allies dry in the Home Islands.
To bad that's not what happened in reality, so the nuclear bombs were still entirely useless.
I do know the hardliners had that in mind, but I have to imagine their will wouldn't be met by the population by anywhere near the same degree of fervor. That and, given their dwindling resources and lack of connection to any outside the main islands, it wouldn't have been long before any capacity for real resistance would have dried up in the face of the peace offers
It is so fucking frustrating how you can quote every Allied military leader saying that they didn't need to drop the bombs and it just sails right past people arguing that they did. It feels like the Patrick Spongebob wallet meme sometimes
idk why it's even a debate when all the top allied leadership at the time said the bomb wasn't fucking necessary
“japan wasn’t going to surrender so we had to nuke them” is pro US propaganda
they teach this in US public schools when you're young so it becomes a "known fact" that goes unexamined through the rest of most USian lives
Yup. This and how all Japan would rise up against invasion, to the last man. They're just like that out east!
But the occupation went off without a hitch afterwards don't think about that
Granted, the hardliners did want to fight to the last man, woman, and child; and had the Soviets maintained their neutrality then the hardliners most likely would have succeeded in pushing Hirohito or couping him so that they could abandon Manchuria and attempt to bleed the Allies dry in the Home Islands.
To bad that's not what happened in reality, so the nuclear bombs were still entirely useless.
I do know the hardliners had that in mind, but I have to imagine their will wouldn't be met by the population by anywhere near the same degree of fervor. That and, given their dwindling resources and lack of connection to any outside the main islands, it wouldn't have been long before any capacity for real resistance would have dried up in the face of the peace offers
It is so fucking frustrating how you can quote every Allied military leader saying that they didn't need to drop the bombs and it just sails right past people arguing that they did. It feels like the Patrick Spongebob wallet meme sometimes