Ima be real with you chief I don't see the value as these liberals won't change their mind as politics is of very low stakes for them, I swear we put more energy into online spats then real org stuff, and before I go further, why in respect for your post. Why does changing the minds of people leaving reddit matter these people aren't even the people that build power in real life.

Problems with orgs as a side note is they just recruite students and don't attempt to help or integrate into the community by providing a all the time food program or filling in gaps like having a soccer club but communist or create any space to socialy reproduce like parts of the party that just are for people to have a good time on the week end and be communist. And yes if you dont understand why you need social reproduction all I can tell you is this stuff that builds partys, no more cheap political wins we need serious local in real life partys that are integral to their local conditions and communitys by adapting to local conditions not larping collage students that try to apply 20th century Russian theory to modern capital neoliberal formations. Not saying online stuff isn't apart of that but we need to stay clear of letting our selves be sucked into the internet as it seems to only sublimate movements into cul-de-sac and drain them of political energy.

Ok well shit into a rant well this will be for someone for the op just read the too paragraph the bottem is my old 🧠 exploding with rage. :marx-joker: