Another thing; As a computer, no matter what the Bazingas say, ChatGPT is deterministic. Computers cannot produce true random numbers. It's mathematically and computationally impossible. With the exact same input the output will be the same, every time, unless a gamma ray flips a bit. Computer programmers cheat by referencing clock time or whatever, but the only way to get true randomness in to a computer program is by getting the input from an external source. People use physical dice rollers, people use the temperature, I've seen one that gets randomness from the motion of fish in a fish tank. But you have to go outside.
So whatever ChatGPT is doing in it's black box, no matter how hard it is to track down or figure out, is deterministic due to the hard constraints of binary computation.
pseudo-random numbers, since they’re technically less random, but feel
They're also more useful in a lot of cases, because with pseudorandom number generation, you can certify constraints on the distributions that you're sampling from and guarantee a certain level of stability of the behavior of the algorithm. As a result, there are a few settings where we can get higher entropy pseudorandom numbers than what we can get out of truly random samples of external processes.
Reality is deterministic. If you roll dice the exact same way under the exact same conditions it will result in the same number every time. This is a fundamental principal of physics. Randomness is an illusion of chaos which is defined as extreme sensitivity to initial conditions. AI models are absolutely sensitive to initial conditions and is perfectly capable of being chaotic.
There's plenty of reasons to criticize AI systems and their uses but saying it's deterministic is not one of them. It just screams of illiteracy in the topic.
The practical point is to not use uneducated arguments against AI. As I said, there are many reasons to criticize the abilies of AI systems but their ability to be sufficiently random is not one of them. It's just demonstrably false. You can't look at the images dall-e outputs and be like "yeah this is too deterministic".
I remember suggesting a 10 meter Ethernet cable not plugged into anything at the other end to gather background radiation.
That said, I hate this critique for RPG dice. All that's necessary is for the players not to know the outcome of the next roll. You could have a list of numbers if you wanted.
Another thing; As a computer, no matter what the Bazingas say, ChatGPT is deterministic. Computers cannot produce true random numbers. It's mathematically and computationally impossible. With the exact same input the output will be the same, every time, unless a gamma ray flips a bit. Computer programmers cheat by referencing clock time or whatever, but the only way to get true randomness in to a computer program is by getting the input from an external source. People use physical dice rollers, people use the temperature, I've seen one that gets randomness from the motion of fish in a fish tank. But you have to go outside.
So whatever ChatGPT is doing in it's black box, no matter how hard it is to track down or figure out, is deterministic due to the hard constraints of binary computation.
Isn’t the fishtank one a cybersecurity company in SF? I can’t remember the exact one, but it’s in their front office as a display piece.
I also love the idea of pseudo-random numbers, since they’re technically less random, but feel correct
They're also more useful in a lot of cases, because with pseudorandom number generation, you can certify constraints on the distributions that you're sampling from and guarantee a certain level of stability of the behavior of the algorithm. As a result, there are a few settings where we can get higher entropy pseudorandom numbers than what we can get out of truly random samples of external processes.
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CloudFlare uses a wall of lava lamps.
That’s what I was thinking of
Reality is deterministic. If you roll dice the exact same way under the exact same conditions it will result in the same number every time. This is a fundamental principal of physics. Randomness is an illusion of chaos which is defined as extreme sensitivity to initial conditions. AI models are absolutely sensitive to initial conditions and is perfectly capable of being chaotic.
There's plenty of reasons to criticize AI systems and their uses but saying it's deterministic is not one of them. It just screams of illiteracy in the topic.
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The practical point is to not use uneducated arguments against AI. As I said, there are many reasons to criticize the abilies of AI systems but their ability to be sufficiently random is not one of them. It's just demonstrably false. You can't look at the images dall-e outputs and be like "yeah this is too deterministic".
I remember suggesting a 10 meter Ethernet cable not plugged into anything at the other end to gather background radiation.
That said, I hate this critique for RPG dice. All that's necessary is for the players not to know the outcome of the next roll. You could have a list of numbers if you wanted.