English language media and the mexican FA says its a homophobic slur. Buuuut spanish media says it more just means "bitch." Anyone here know if its actually a slur used against queer people? Preferably a Mexican comrade. Whats the deeaaalll

  • machiabelly [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    So when people say that puto isn't homophobic its like saying that bitch isn't misogynist?

    • SweetLava [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah. People will call a rude person a bitch like a mexican would call someone trying to start shit a puto. You can decide whether its misogynistic or homohphobic in general, but people will get defensive because they swear up and down that they dont mean it like that when pressed

      • machiabelly [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        but they don't care about how their words make those groups of people feel. Very classic, very middleschool. Of course just asking them to use different swear words is out of the question, its not incredibly easy or anything.

        Usually thats what isms and phobias are, just not valuing certain people.

        • SweetLava [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          if you tried to explain it, heres a typical convo:

          • "You have an issue with gay people or something? Why'd you say that?"

          • "Wtf are you talking about I didn't say anything about gay people. He was looking at me crazy."

          To be fair, I can think of four or five insults that would be completely homophobic no questions asked. Like I said, if a mexican wanted to be homophobic they can and will use something more intense. It still promotes homophobia and lets people get away with insulting peole a certain way when they can clearly see the results of homophobic words and actions in their communities. Lots of reactionaries among mexicans and mexican-americans who dont give af what damage it causes and would easily double down and start using the worse phrases if someone they didnt like pressed them about it

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I'm not sure really, in Mexican parlance that may be the case. In Puerto Rican parlance we use the word to mean anyone who's affectionate, I often hear it used to describe house pets as being cuddly. I almost never hear it as an insult as opposed to the feminine version which is often used in a misogynistic tone. It's got more than one definition.