I lose my cool when people say the same old lib talking points about how awful mass shootings are and how we need "common sense" gun control. It's the combination of smarmy :maybe-later-honey: :maybe-later-kiddo: attitude and unwillingness to consider the implications of policy, or the history of similar disarming of leftists and vulnerable groups. So I get a little hot and I bully them. Then, they play the "actually I'm [member of vulnerable group] " or "my sibling died to gun violence" card. Great so now I'm an asshole.
Am I wrong to bully people for shallow thinking and smug attitudes. Do I stoop to their style of rhetoric playing up atrocities like the Shanghai Massacre of disarmed leftists by the KMT or how cops kill and abuse black people with impunity after disarming the Black Panthers with the Mulford Act? These fools think these cops will protect us? It's so frustrating.
idk maybe they're just radlibs in leftist spaces
Both of you seems to not really get that capitalist systems exploit social problems that it creates for its own benefit. The contradictions inherent in gun culture create opportunities for capitalists and politicians, while dividing principled opposition -- but you just keep bullying allies who disagree with you. I don't know a single freethinking person whom "bullying" would work on. Maybe your arguments are grounded in some fact or compelling moral argument that people were sort of on their way to internalizing, so that a natural outcome of of the person's conscientiousness and intelligence is to reach some of the same conclusions we, as scientific socialists, have already determined to be true. But there is noone who I would ever want to work with who folds when being bullied, what happens if they get arrested? Now the guy you bullied into being a "leftist" is being bullied by the cops to give up your working group.
I love this community but the whole "bullying works" thing is pushed by operators and (I'm sorry I love you but) vegans. It doesn't work. You know what works? Explicitly non-violent, explicitly armed community defense. Pacifists are real principled until they start getting shot at by reactionaries. The group that defends them wins them over to the necessity of armed defense. https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/deacons-defense-and-justice/
Struggle. Not bullying. Leftists arguing isn't struggle. Leftists fighting together, is. Sorry for the lecture, but gun culture is designed to be a mindfuck rife with contraditions. There isn't a right or wrong side in this particular example. there are only right and wrong tactics conditioned by the demands of the struggle. Peaceful protesters should be able to be defended by principled, sometimes armed, comrades. Armed groups should be able to do peaceful and unarmed protest if necessary. Its not the guns that protect us, its our principles and camaraderie first. Without those we point the guns at each other, and the enemy delights
GOOD post