https://libreddit.kavin.rocks/r/TheDeprogram/comments/11s7x4u/badempanada_uyhgers_video/

Found in the Deprogram sub's discussion ofnit which is quite good. Radio War Nerd also does this beating around the bush with Zenz's beliefs. To say nothing of Deprogram & RWN Russia takes,

  • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    How is it nuanced? He doesn't even explore terrorism in the region. He skirts around the topic he wants to get engagement off as a third rail issue.

    Saying states have never treated minorities right is very reductive. I'm doubtful that's someone who's ever taken a nuanced look at the history of, say the USSR.

    Nuanced position between the Victims of Communism Foundation & strawman who supports everything the govt could hypothetically do seems like a cynical deliberate choice to me

    • ImOnADiet
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      1 year ago

      I'm not saying it was a great take, I'm disagreeing with the framing of the beginning of the thread. I agree with the rest of the thread, not sure where that got mixed up. I think it's possible to try and be nuanced and miss really badly, I know I've had my fair share of bad takes

      • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
        hexagon
        ·
        1 year ago

        I think we should all be way more judgmental about how people try to make us spend an hour after work.

          • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            When someone puts together a video or article or whatever I can't expect them to do the same kind of things I do but I've got to judge what they focus on and present to others as important and their thoroughness vs conciseness.

            It's legit hard to find anyone who questions this propaganda. He is finding new ways to spin it here. To people who know there is zero credibility in Zenz and his institutions

            People get instantly banned for talking about this issue, it ruins a lot of spaces online with cheap anti-disinformation gotchas.

            Why is this not deserving of disdain. Why should we respect some Youtuber finding a posting niche over the truth

            • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Yeah my permanent ban on Reddit a while ago was because I thoroughly walked a lib through how Zenz falsified the statistics about IUD birth control in Xinjiang and debunking a report with basic math mistakes is misinformation and genocide denial

          • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
            hexagon
            ·
            1 year ago

            You gotta have a turbofake job to do that shit I can get away with posting because my work has invaded my texts completely

          • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
            hexagon
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            edit-2
            1 year ago

            You have a limited view of the possibilities of learning from video tbqh. It's impressive how little these guys accomplish relative to any other media. Montage is limitless 🤩🤩🤩

            Youtube doesn't have to be worthless nazi garbage. Google did this on purpose. I'm fascinated by everyone's little content creators that just read off Wikipedia. There's so much potential that will never be realized in making educational Marxism videos.

              • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
                hexagon
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                1 year ago

                Idk haven't really seen anybody good get posted it's always these weird annoying libs who all fight eacch other

                  • TheEpicLibOwner [he/him]
                    hexagon
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Okay but it is weird when people kind of interject into conversation telling you to watch/listen to a video/show because they don't want to explain it and then it sucks and they get weirdly defensive and so does the creator. What is everyone's game here.

                    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      I can answer that for you, the game is Patreon money, which is functions on cult following (in the sense of "cult classic", not a more serious cult). BE only ever made one video worth watching, and it was a 6 minute video on his second channel.

                        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                          1 year ago

                          It's this one, probably the single most useful "breadtube" video for being a check on "breadtube" as a concept:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23h9emj2_Rw