• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    That's right, US isn't fighting for some values or abstract freedoms, it's fighting to secure the right of the oligarchs to plunder the resources of Ukraine. Anybody who still doesn't understand this has a brain as smooth as a bowling ball.

  • biribiri11@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Mmm Russian propagandists going hard today, or rather, as hard as ever, ensuring to amplify the messages of individuals who already have questionable allegiance to the US in the first place. Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight. It’s not like the US are the ones trying to kill the Ukrainian president to get their way.

    • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      individuals who already have questionable allegiance to the US

      He's protecting US global financial interests. How is his allegiance any less than any other senator? Substantiate this.

      Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight.

      Americans still wanted to fight at the end of the Vietnam war. I can show you many statements. The question is which Ukrainians. Substantiate this.

      It’s not like the US are the ones trying to kill the Ukrainian president to get their way.

      The US has tried to assassinate foreign leaders for political convenience 100s of times over the past 100 years. The US is morally inferior to Russia, which is already incredibly morally corrupt.

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      5 months ago

      Which Ukrainians want to fight until they're all dead, the ones kept in the country by closed borders, the ones who are press ganged into service by conscription "recruiters"?

      Russian propagandists

      I love that you think you're like idk not some brainwashed idiot (like we are ofc) when, due to propaganda, you literally write off anyone critical of NATO's imperialism as "Russian propagandists"

      Super great display of critical thinking

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      People who don't want Russia to acquire resources and think they should be stopped from getting them by force are not pro-Russia. Graham ALSO wants them to fight, you are in complete agreement with him. Are you also a Ruzzian stooge?

    • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      Pretty similar to the US invasion of Ukraine in 2014 where the President left in desperation to prevent his murder. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right, but after the US overthrew the country's government they should have understood they were going to encounter retaliation at some point.

    • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      Just keep in mind the Ukrainians still want to fight.

      The Azov Battalion still wants to fight, maybe. It might be more accurate to say that the Ukrainian government still wants its conscripts to fight.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      Will you stop lying already. The regime the west installed in Ukraine is literally kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to fight. Even western propagandists are now admitting this, yet here you are spreading blatant misinformation https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Why is it necessary to cancel all consular services for Ukrainian men if they're so eager to fight? Are you sure the bloodlust and desire for battle you're perceiving isn't your own?

  • lps@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Bringing peace is surprisingly lucrative -- for weapons contractors, black rock and now the mining industry, huh 🙈